2 Cartidge Spender Question

[Rongway]

Was thinking about it at work. If that new move uses 2 cartidges, doesn't that mean it would need to as strong or stronger than 2 Burst Strikes and 2 Continuations as well? Unless it also has a Continuation in which case it would just need to be as strong as 2 Burst Strikes?

I can see why you might think that, but as it turns out, you can't just double a 1 cartridge spender to assign the potency of a 2 cartridge spender. Each cartridge spender replaces GCDs in which you would have been doing a certain amount of damage without the cartridges anyway, so the value of the cartridge has to take the baseline GCD potency into account. So the value of a cartridge spent on Burst Strike isn't 500p; it's only 200p, because you would have done 300p with a normal weaponskill during that time anyway.

Potencies of GNB GCD actions:

Without No Mercy

Keen Edge: 200p
Brutal Shell: 300p
Solid Barrel: 400p
Total ST Combo: 900p
Mean ST GCD: 300p

Burst Strike: 500p
Cartridge potency for Burst Strike: 200p

Gnashing Fang: 450p
..Jugular Rip: 260p
Savage Claw: 550p
..Abdomen Tear: 280p
Wicked Talon: 650p
..Eye Gouge: 300p
Total ST Cartridge Combo: 2,490p
Cartridge potency for ST Cartridge Combo: 1,590p


Demon Slice: 150p/target
Demon Slaughter: 250p/target
Mean AoE GCD: 200p/target

Fated Circle: 320p/target
Cartridge potency for Fated Circle: 120p/target


With No Mercy

Cartridge potency for Burst Strike: 240p
Cartridge potency for ST Cartridge Combo: 1,908p
Cartridge potency for Fated Circle: 144p/target

A single target GCD action that costs 2 cartridges needs to do more than

Mean ST GCD + 2 (Cart.P for Burst Strike)
300p + 2 (200p) = 700p

to be better than Burst Strike. It would need to do more than

Mean ST GCD + 2(Cart.P for ST Cart.Combo)
300p + 2(1,590p) = 3,480p

to be better than Fang-Claw-Talon.


An AoE GCD action that costs 2 cartridges needs to do more than

Mean AoE GCD + 2 (Cart.P for Fated Circle)
200p/target + 2 (120p/target) = 440p/target

to be better than Fated Circle.

My guess it's around 800+ with aoe effect.

This is probably reasonable. I'd guess 800p, maybe with less damage after the first target to bring it closer to 440p/target on AoE.