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    SweetPete's Avatar
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    Endwalker Job Actions- Astro

    Hey guys. Are you excited for Endwalker? I sure am.

    So the last skill the Astro used in its trailer seemed to be a time rewind skill. I mean that’s what I got from it. So the Astro applied a beautiful moon shield and it was destroyed. Then the Astro used another new skill that looked like a clock then after a few seconds the moon shield appeared back on the reaper.

    I mean maybe I’m seeing things but I believe that’s what I saw. If what I saw was true then that was cool. Maybe it will only work for Astro buffs because that would be pretty OP if a paladin used hallowed ground and you reverse time and reapply it after it’s duration.

    What did you guys think? Is the kitchen hot, warm or cold? Haha I think it’s pretty hot since I believe I’m onto something.

    Take care everyone and see you all in Endwalker!
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Looking at Ast's trailer, its either a time rewind (please ;n; ) or just an aoe version of the moon shield. Which again makes one wonder why they deleted noct sect when ast is getting another shield and sage has barely any barriers.

    When they removed time dilation "it didn't do anything on noct" well it could have restored a bit of the shields every tick for its duration like how diurnal got extra ticks.
    If anything, ast needed slightly more time magic. I always felt Ast should have less normal heals, and use time magic to make the most of it rather than a whm clone.

    Astro's really come off with the best trailer of the healers. They got lord/lady back to the original effects and boosted to aoe. They got a self buff which is nice since giving away your card buffs all the time feels a bit thankless when the party is pants on head stupid (not to mention if its a personal damage buff, it could make solo potd/hoh actually viable) they got whatever that last effect is and the meteor shower ogcd attack. (on demand echo in npcs XD)
    Gravity now upgraded to gravira. and maleza is a kilonova.

    (for those that dont know, in ff history, each spell has a tier of suffix. SE thought english were dumb in ff14 and changed it to numbers while every other language gets the suffixes. It goes none, ra, aga, ja, sometimes za unless its flares which rank by computer terms eg mega, giga, tera, exa all the way to zettaflare atm)

    just got to hope the cards return to being varied and fun and it might be in an acceptable state for some of the old ast mains to return.
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    Last edited by Recon1o6; 09-29-2021 at 07:18 PM.

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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    SE thought english were dumb in ff14 and changed it to numbers while every other language gets the suffixes
    No, FR got numerals on some spells (Malfaisance --/II/III/IV) and size words before some spells (--/Extra/Méga/Giga Glace/Feu).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Looking at Ast's trailer, its either a time rewind (please ;n; ) or just an aoe version of the moon shield. Which again makes one wonder why they deleted noct sect when ast is getting another shield and sage has barely any barriers.
    The whole Noctural / Diurnal sect thing is bad because they can't be used in combat which is what matters the most. Initially, when I unlocked AST I was excited about the sects because I thought I could swap sects in combat and use that to reset the timers of some of my abilities or something. Nope. I had to either pick Diurnal or Noctural and that's it.
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    I believe devs mentioned all healers will have a skill or two that shields and a skill or 2 that'll regens and a skill that buffs in some way, sooo I assume sch/sge's shields are just more potent?
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    I'm personally gonna miss the giant Gravity Ball, but the new AoE animation is really cool, and the Star Shower/Lord of Crowns will likely make AST feel more powerful in dungeons. I'm excited to see what kind of self buff AST grants, and that Divination is no longer linked to seals.
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    Lilja Arda
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    Oh man... a Time Rewind sounds scary in practice, actually. They had something similar in one of the Bravely games, and while you could rewind damage that a person took, you could also rewind healing as well. The potential for Benediction→Super Bollide→PANIC style shenanigans is... super strong if that's how the ability works.
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    Let Mama make it better! ♥

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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Looking at Ast's trailer, its either a time rewind (please ;n; ) or just an aoe version of the moon shield. Which again makes one wonder why they deleted noct sect when ast is getting another shield and sage has barely any barriers.
    Considering how few shields the game's only shield healer has right now... and how many HoTs Sage was revealed to have, I'm honestly not entirely sure what the pure/shield healer labels are supposed to even mean.
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    AST gets a hold of one of the infinity stones, eh?

    I like it.
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Considering how few shields the game's only shield healer has right now... and how many HoTs Sage was revealed to have, I'm honestly not entirely sure what the pure/shield healer labels are supposed to even mean.
    I feel this. I would really love to hear from the devs directly what the difference is supposed to be because I don't really understand what's meant to differentiate the healers. The other example of where a role is divided into sub roles comes from the DPS role where Melee, Physical Ranged, and Magical Ranged DPS all have clearly defined different playstyles. Let's not forget that they each also have a completely different set of role actions outside of a Arm's Length and Second Wind. From what we've seen so far, both Pure and Barrier healers are looking to continue having a relatively similar playstyle outside of nuance mechanics like AST's cards and the same selection of role actions.

    My best guess is that Pure Healers are meant to have high-potency GCD healing and Barrier Healers have barrier GCD healing, but if that's literally what the difference is supposed to be exclusively, then the devs are just really out of touch with how healers play. GCD healing is what we actively avoid using as much as possible and thus the least defining qualities of our gameplay. The only example of where I could see these sub roles actually mattering is in wanting at least one Barrier Healer during the early stages of Savage or Ultimate prog where having an AoE barrier on the GCD can help the party endure mechanics longer and thus learn the fight more quickly, but that's it.
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