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    This isn’t your own artwork and therefore SE cannot utilize any concepts derived from these pictures specifically. They open themselves to litigation from the actual creators of these works of art if they create something too similar (and what *is* too similar is up for debate), and if they directly credit you for the dungeon then the implication would be that they utilized the “concepts” you linked here from other artists

    Edit: the only concepts they COULD use are the pictures linked from their own products. That’s it.
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    The only art that OP showed that isn't SE's own property are the concept art for the background but SE already has concept art for Mt Gagazet from base to summit. All other work OP linked was taken directly from FFX concept art or FFX in-game screenshots/renders.

    I'm frankly kind of surprised at the number of people saying that Square can't utilize anything the OP posted because "legal reasons". I know knowledge of the Final Fantasy franchise isn't needed to play FFXIV but nobody commenting seems to have even googled anything (or read my previous comments) regarding this topic. There's no argument nor reason why this can't be added into the game aside from "will it make sense in XIV's story?" in the same vein as how we got Rabanastre, Kefka, Exdeath, Cloud of Darkness (twice) and Chaos.
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    For the ideas @ OP, what part were you looking for from the Mt?

    Honestly when I think the Mt I think that really cool Aeon shrine, and for some reason like Far Cry 4 Tibetan high in the mountains - I'd honestly encourage that new take of high mountain whites but also rich colors, allows for a reimagination of the Mt. Gagazet vibe.

    Seems like OP leads into space in the last boss, so maybe a cool moment would be reaching the peak with the back drop being so distant and broad yet as you go through the boss fight the FOV like aspect of the sky grows until it expands and then collapses down onto the ground sky box (meaning you're on a mountain in space), with like shooting stars flowing by as you fight.

    The second boss I honestly didn't really connect with those two Ronso (in FFX) so it's not too meaningful to me but I did think high up on a mountain with a mystical like place + space influenced boss could be interesting. The super magical area in the mountains would be neat, like I hope we see the farplanes in EW.


    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    The only art that OP showed that isn't SE's own property are the concept art for the background but SE already has concept art for Mt Gagazet from base to summit. All other work OP linked was taken directly from FFX concept art or FFX in-game screenshots/renders.

    I'm frankly kind of surprised at the number of people saying that Square can't utilize anything the OP posted because "legal reasons". I know knowledge of the Final Fantasy franchise isn't needed to play FFXIV but nobody commenting seems to have even googled anything (or read my previous comments) regarding this topic. There's no argument nor reason why this can't be added into the game aside from "will it make sense in XIV's story?" in the same vein as how we got Rabanastre, Kefka, Exdeath, Cloud of Darkness (twice) and Chaos.
    Sometimes the effort people put into saying no, but not to think of ways to say ... better construct the idea (or just not to give input at all), has both surprised, disappointed, and now just been like "ah yes.. there that is". Reminds me of other events like with summoner, beast tribes, and even hilariously reaper where before the job was titled reaper I was (and others) being told such dark job ideas were impossible and that reaper was an impossible idea lol.

    Just sometimes, sometimes...

    I doubt OP, and OP can correct me if wrong, thought SE was going to LITERALLY 1:1 take their ideas, but more however that OP just wanted a space as the title of the thread suggests (FFX mt.) and wanted to encourage and inspire it. I think it would be unreasonable to ever expect SE to take an idea 1:1 for any reason. I've never assumed they would, but I do imagine we inspire them and elucidate our desires by communicating out ideas. BUT if SE was like "ah man those damn laywers otherwise I'd use Shougun's suggestion".. just for the weird weird sake that ever happened, just want to say I don't want credit nor compensation for any idea suggested in the forums. Yay I lawyered myself out. Lol.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 10-01-2021 at 03:55 PM. Reason: far Cry 4 not 5 XD

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    Hmm...Dont get me wrong, I bloody LOVE the idea.
    But at the same time, maybe not Mt. Gagazet specifically.

    Unless Spira suddenly becomes apart of the world we can visit; and the Hrothgar get a Big CC update/Extension, then we wont exactly get Ronso and it won't look/feel authentic...unless they wanna just give us unique models we can Never use ourselves for our Hrothgar. Even Dalmasca had its actual residents Viera and such, Mt Gagazet would be full of Face Option 4 Hrothgar, or unique models we wont be able to use which...would be annoying.

    So, Im in favor of the overall concept, but perhaps it could be a new area with a different name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Hmm...Dont get me wrong, I bloody LOVE the idea.
    But at the same time, maybe not Mt. Gagazet specifically.

    Unless Spira suddenly becomes apart of the world we can visit; and the Hrothgar get a Big CC update/Extension, then we wont exactly get Ronso and it won't look/feel authentic...unless they wanna just give us unique models we can Never use ourselves for our Hrothgar. Even Dalmasca had its actual residents Viera and such, Mt Gagazet would be full of Face Option 4 Hrothgar, or unique models we wont be able to use which...would be annoying.

    So, Im in favor of the overall concept, but perhaps it could be a new area with a different name.
    Mount gigazet is a common theme in final fantasygames was in 5-6 and 10 so not completely a ff10 relented content
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    Mount gigazet is a common theme in final fantasygames was in 5-6 and 10 so not completely a ff10 relented content
    Mt Gagazet is a specific location from FFX/FFX2, are you sure you're not thinking of mountains in general because most games have had those at one point or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    Mt Gagazet is a specific location from FFX/FFX2, are you sure you're not thinking of mountains in general because most games have had those at one point or another.
    no actually remebered the actual name in 5-6 be honest too. but it wasn't as great as how 10 did it reason why it shined so brightly in 10 had brilliant music. artwork and really hit home specially when it was coming near the end yuna journey and you knew what was gonna happen. so whole ff10 experence was really hold key to ppls hurts where ones was in other games just using same music rense and repeat it was easily missable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    For the ideas @ OP, what part were you looking for from the Mt?
    Same question.

    $0.02: For me, the appeal lies in the melancholy or sense of event horizon within a culture-bound quest that will more than likely claim lives. It's a place for which OST I wouldn't want an obviously "battle theme" variant of.

    Sometimes the effort people put into saying no, but not to think of ways to say ... better construct the idea (or just not to give input at all), has both surprised, disappointed, and now just been like "ah yes.. there that is". Reminds me of other events like with summoner, beast tribes, and even hilariously reaper where before the job was titled reaper I was (and others) being told such dark job ideas were impossible and that reaper was an impossible idea lol.
    It is indeed interesting to see the efforts others will go to condemn others' efforts...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    no actually remebered the actual name in 5-6 be honest too. but it wasn't as great as how 10 did it reason why it shined so brightly in 10 had brilliant music. artwork and really hit home specially when it was coming near the end yuna journey and you knew what was gonna happen. so whole ff10 experence was really hold key to ppls hurts where ones was in other games just using same music rense and repeat it was easily missable
    Gagazet IS a Spira-centric location however if you are certain of yourself that the location can be found in other games throughout the franchise I look forward to seeing your references from said games with links to FF wiki pages to back up your claims. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictoriaLuv View Post
    Mount gigazet is a common theme in final fantasygames was in 5-6 and 10 so not completely a ff10 relented content
    I hate to ask but...you have a source? Any proof?
    To my knowledge, and even my own research, its the Home to the Ronso, which is FFX & FFX-2
    I see nothing about this being recycled from any other Final Fantasy Game
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