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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    The game is what is bigger & important. Not a streamer who happens to play it whether he/she likes it or not.

    The streamer worship is completely...weird.
    Seriously, i do not see streamer worshipping here. But there is much hate from the FF14 gatekeepers.

    Cheers
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  2. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    Seriously, i do not see streamer worshipping here. But there is much hate from the FF14 gatekeepers.

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    Of course you don't...
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    That's not at all how it went, though. Gear rewards were never "removed from" easier dungeons or "shifted into" harder ones. Their rewards stayed exactly as they were: just short of the lowest difficulty of the then-current raid tier -- exactly as is done here.
    You're neglecting to mention that they added three additional difficulties to the raid tier, with the lowest difficulty raid tier (LFR) offering even worse rewards that your covenant quests grant you. In context, imagine Alliance Raids started dropping currency and gear that wasn't even as good as the coffers you get after progressing through your MSQ. When I left the game, Heroic Dungeon gear was capped at 177 item level. In context, that's the equivalent of 410 item level Shadowbringers gear. So, yes, you're right that it was technically just below LFR gear, but the LFR gear was garbage, too. In the meantime, the M10+ gear (223+) was 10 item levels better than Heroic raid gear (213-220). It's a stupid system that prematurely hard caps social groups. After lots of protesting, they finally reinstated a currency that allows players to upgrade their gear, but guess what? You have to run through the toxic mess that is M+ just to unlock the vendors. If that mess of a system ever managed to find its way into this game (and I'm pretty sure that it never will), you can bet that I'll be dropping my sub.
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  4. #164
    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I still need to hear a convincing argument why having options is a bad thing. Just stick to easy and never think about hard content ever again. That is not difficult, people.
    Maybe you should read my post then. Resources are not infinite.. resources spend creating what you want.. are resources that are going to be cut either from other content you also enjoy.. perhaps no Savage Raids for Endwalker? Or from content the wider audience enjoys. That is a rock solid reason to not want it. Ideally Yoshi P would get a massive budget boost and be able to make it all without cutting other things. But hey, I'd also like to win the lottery tonight.. you can't have it all.
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  5. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    DRN is endgame and it's issues aren't the mechanics, but people not using essences designed for DR
    I've only ever seen those essences drop in DR. How are people running it for their first few times supposed to use something that they haven't even gotten? How is it that I'm still able to survive most bosses without those essences if they're so mandatory? I'm sure that if you've stayed on top of the current content for the past two years, you have essences coming out your ears. In a healthy game, though, there's a constant influx of new players who haven't built up giant essence collections. My many deaths in DR were not due to lacking essences. They were due to my failure to realize that the barriers surrounding the first boss were intended to be used as a backstop for some mechanics and as a shield for others. They were due to my puzzlement at a temperature gauge appearing over my head with no idea as to how I was supposed to properly regulate it. They were due to my ignorance of the visual tells that indicated that AoEs of varying types were imminent.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoW View Post
    By that logic, we are getting harder 4 men content!! We just need the raiding community to speak much louder about it. And thanks to Asmongold and the other fellow hardcore raiders that joined, the dream will be a reality!
    Asmongold is not a hardcore raider lol. He's even said that he hates hard raids. He hasn't even cleared the Mythic raids in WoW. He cleared Heroic and left it at that. He's even described the level 50 trials in FFXIV as hard. If you're waiting for Asmongold to advocate for hard content in this game, you're going to be waiting a long time.
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  7. #167
    Player Lanadra's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Asmongold is not a hardcore raider lol. He's even said that he hates hard raids. He hasn't even cleared the Mythic raids in WoW. He cleared Heroic and left it at that. He's even described the level 50 trials in FFXIV as hard. If you're waiting for Asmongold to advocate for hard content in this game, you're going to be waiting a long time.
    That guys a troll.. he's not waiting for anything but to see who he can get a rise out of.
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  8. #168
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    I wish to be forum SMN so I can summon Titanmen on whenever we need new subject to "discuss" about
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  9. #169
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    I've only ever seen those essences drop in DR. How are people running it for their first few times supposed to use something that they haven't even gotten?
    they're supposed to use the BSF ones first, i.e. stuff like aetherweaver and the likes, which have a high drop rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    How is it that I'm still able to survive most bosses without those essences if they're so mandatory?
    because people would bitch and moan like babies if they were 'mandatory'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    I'm sure that if you've stayed on top of the current content for the past two years, you have essences coming out your ears. In a healthy game, though, there's a constant influx of new players who haven't built up giant essence collections.
    I don't have a giant essence collection either because I don't do bozja/zadnor, but it takes 5-10 minutes to get DPS/Healer/Tank essences which will last for a while and DRN itself drops the DR related deep essences

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    My many deaths in DR were not due to lacking essences. They were due to my failure to realize that the barriers surrounding the first boss were intended to be used as a backstop for some mechanics and as a shield for others. They were due to my puzzlement at a temperature gauge appearing over my head with no idea as to how I was supposed to properly regulate it. They were due to my ignorance of the visual tells that indicated that AoEs of varying types were imminent.
    seriously, no one cares or will be upset when new people die because they haven't figured the mechs out, hell, I die too sometimes because I try to get that last GCD out before having to move and failing! that's not DRNs issue at all

    the issue is people not using essences to make it go quicker either out of sheer laziness, because they expect to get carried or because they didn't know - but even that is a cop-out to me because bozjas whole purpose is using essences to become even stronger

    people will leave if the first boss takes too long because it means that a majority aren't using DPS essences and I don't blame them at all, but what I will blame is people killing themselves or not accepting rezzes on purpose and leaving their party to get carried through the content due to being unable to kick them

    it's content that can be casually cleared in under 25 minutes if everyone uses DPS essences, yet the average DF run easily takes 40-60 minutes because the playerbase is allergic to using their essences and skills and do it with absolute glee and that's the thing that gets me, people wilfully wasting other people's time for whatever reason
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  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Waste of dev time. Need more?
    Trying content, beating it first try and then get bored does not foster longevity. If brain-dead is your thing, more power to you, but saying you must have brain-dead at the exclusion of everything else is just short-sighted in terms of healthiness of the game and also ignorant.
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