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    I'd love to see something like this catch on just so I never have to see "Y'shtola is immortal" or "Nael van Darnus was a localization error." again.
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I'd love to see something like this catch on just so I never have to see "Y'shtola is immortal" or "Nael van Darnus was a localization error." again.
    Some of that is that literal magic can sometimes make it hard to tell what's real vs exaggeration. Like with Y'shtola. While it's unlikely that Y'shtola is actually unaging, it is definitely possible within the lore, leading to understandable confusion. (see also, Hildibrand, etc)
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    The Echo giving the ability to pre-dodge has always been a hand wave type of thing to me as it isn't ever confirm/denied anywhere. It's an innocent headcanon at worst.

    As for the "did we solo? Were we in a group?" I'm content with the reasoning given (in HW, I think?) that the answer to that is "are you? Aren't you? Who knows?" unless made obvious such as Prae or Hades in which you can see the other players as part of story-centric cinematic.

    Other than that I don't have too many nitpicks aside from some inferences regarding the echo and adventurers not being likely to have it and lack of other warriors of light (though I know of only one explicitly named off the top of my head) Maybe I misunderstood though.
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    As for the "did we solo? Were we in a group?" I'm content with the reasoning given (in HW, I think?) that the answer to that is "are you? Aren't you? Who knows?" unless made obvious such as Prae or Hades in which you can see the other players as part of story-centric cinematic.
    What reasoning would you be referring to? That could make for a good addition to the document!

    Other than that I don't have too many nitpicks aside from some inferences regarding the echo and adventurers not being likely to have it and lack of other warriors of light (though I know of only one explicitly named off the top of my head) Maybe I misunderstood though.
    I assume you're talking about when I point out Urianger's changed line? There are no references to other warriors of light existing at the same time as the current single one. There have, of course, been many others in the past, like those who were active during the leadup to the 7th Umbral Calamity, Tenzen, and Saint Ajora. But the player's WoL is the only one currently known, which is undoubtedly why Urianger's line was changed.
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    I'd love to see something like this catch on just so I never have to see "Y'shtola is immortal" or "Nael van Darnus was a localization error." again.
    I feel that those would be much more difficult to tackle, given that they originate in 1.0's lore.
    Also, I think the second would probably require a search for a particular interview where such a thing was discussed (unless you already have it stored somewhere?), and it's entirely possible that I'd just never find it.

    Secondly, the game establishes to my own satisfaction the precedent that you receive help, I don't need them to keep mentioning it every time nor explain how they're there. I can fill in the blanks on my own.
    I suppose it all comes down to how you treat those first precedents; as the rule, or the exceptions to the rule. Personally, as I probably made clear in the document, I prefer to think of the early instances of help being due to the WoL simply being weaker in the beginning, and then after 2.0, or maybe 2.1, they're no longer really necessary, and any mention of them is just the characters assuming that you'll need help?

    Alphinaud: "Knowing little of this 'saint,' I cannot say if your own strength will suffice, and so I would encourage you to call upon your allies."
    WoL: "Uhh yeah, sure thing, Alphinaud. I'll just do that! (lol)"

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    NPC: This will be a tough one, gather your echo blessed adventurer friends.
    Solo WoL: Nah, don't worry about it I'll be fine.
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    NPC: Quick WoL! No time to lose, the enemy is straight ahead!
    Party WoL: With me my 7 echo blessed friends that I always bring with me!
    I like that! A nice way of interpreting what the game presents to you.
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    Last edited by LemonJuice; 09-29-2021 at 05:47 PM. Reason: idk how this works