Explorer's Tabard (Why?)

[Frein]

Personally, I think the Drachenmail is likely superior at the moment. Oh wait, I completely forgot about the Poison Resistance on the tabard! Yeah, tabard wins easily.

I actually don't play DRG much nowadays, but I find people's obsession with ACC way overblown. Sure, Impulse Drive sucks but in trying to make it 99% accurate you significantly overshoot on everything else.

[Elexia]

Personally, I think the Drachenmail is likely superior at the moment. Oh wait, I completely forgot about the Poison Resistance on the tabard! Yeah, tabard wins easily.

I actually don't play DRG much nowadays, but I find people's obsession with ACC way overblown.

It's not overblown, it's been proven time and time again you need a ton of accuracy on certain end-game mobs, especially the newer mobs like Chimera and Garuda.

Impulse Drive sucks but in trying to make it 99% accurate you significantly overshoot on everything else.

You're definitely right in not playing DRG much, you forgot the combo Impulse Drive links and the fact this is a combo based job for it's damage lol. This is why the AF body is nice for more tp, however you're only hurting yourself by losing out on a combo by not even attempting to land Impulse Drive. So it's not an obsession, much like WHMs need to focus on healing magic potency and - enmity, DRGs need acc above all because natively all WS's are lower accuracy than even Gladiator's.

[Frein]

Yes, I know it's an important combo, but you also have the frontal combo, so it's not like you just lose all sources of damage when you whiff. Also, you can salvage some of it with Feint > Disembowel.

And not all DRG WS have low accuracy, it's only Impulse Drive, though I have to admit that WS would struggle to strike the wide side of a barn. Still, it seems counterintuitive to sacrifice so much just to make one of your combos reliable. It could very well be that it's the best way, but since DRG is pretty bad for most things, I only really played it at Ifrit and there I didn't find much use for the CT combo as it has super long animation locks and you can just as well dart in and out for the DS combo the few times it's actually safe to combo at all.

[Lux_Rayna]

Yes, I know it's an important combo, but you also have the frontal combo, so it's not like you just lose all sources of damage when you whiff. Also, you can salvage some of it with Feint > Disembowel.

And not all DRG WS have low accuracy, it's only Impulse Drive, though I have to admit that WS would struggle to strike the wide side of a barn. Still, it seems counterintuitive to sacrifice so much just to make one of your combos reliable. It could very well be that it's the best way, but since DRG is pretty bad for most things, I only really played it at Ifrit and there I didn't find much use for the CT combo as it has super long animation locks and you can just as well dart in and out for the DS combo the few times it's actually safe to combo at all.

I think you've forgotten how important it is. Let me remind you.

True Thrust -> Leg Sweep -> Doom spike: True Thrust does crap damage, Leg sweep does crap damage, and doom spike is the only good skill. Problem with this combo is that its executed from the front, meaning it is very dangerous to do against bosses.

Feint -> Disembowel: Great damage, but Disembowel has a pretty lengthy cooldown. So if you miss a lot, you spend more time using Feint than anything else, and it just doesn't do good dmg.

Vorpal Thrust -> Impulse Drive -> Chaos Thrust: Awesome damage, but both Vorpal Thrust AND Impulse Drive have very low accuracy. I have about 398 acc total so far, and even with "hawks eye" i still can't hit the broad side of a barn with these skills against higher level bosses.

Vorpal Thrust -> Impulsve Drive -> Ring of Talons: Another awesome damage combo, but this one is aoe..and a high damage aoe on top of that. You miss either of those low-acc skills you aren't aoe'ing anything.


If you take out those two combos you are left with very sub-par dps. At that point someone might as well take a bard, a monk, or even a war over you because you aren't doing enough damage to justify taking up a party slot. On top of that your aoe reliability is almost 0, as leg sweep does loldamage...and you're likely to die many many many times on bosses due to trying to execute frontal combos. All in all acc is a DRG's bread and butter, without it he is pretty gimp.

[Velhart]

I think you've forgotten how important it is. Let me remind you.

True Thrust -> Leg Sweep -> Doom spike: True Thrust does crap damage, Leg sweep does crap damage, and doom spike is the only good skill. Problem with this combo is that its executed from the front, meaning it is very dangerous to do against bosses.



Feint -> Disembowel: Great damage, but Disembowel has a pretty lengthy cooldown. So if you miss a lot, you spend more time using Feint than anything else, and it just doesn't do good dmg.

Vorpal Thrust -> Impulse Drive -> Chaos Thrust: Awesome damage, but both Vorpal Thrust AND Impulse Drive have very low accuracy. I have about 398 acc total so far, and even with "hawks eye" i still can't hit the broad side of a barn with these skills against higher level bosses.

Vorpal Thrust -> Impulsve Drive -> Ring of Talons: Another awesome damage combo, but this one is aoe..and a high damage aoe on top of that. You miss either of those low-acc skills you aren't aoe'ing anything.


If you take out those two combos you are left with very sub-par dps. At that point someone might as well take a bard, a monk, or even a war over you because you aren't doing enough damage to justify taking up a party slot. On top of that your aoe reliability is almost 0, as leg sweep does loldamage...and you're likely to die many many many times on bosses due to trying to execute frontal combos. All in all acc is a DRG's bread and butter, without it he is pretty gimp.

This, very much this.

Devs have said DRG is getting a damage increase. What it will be is still a mystery. Our original intent was to be consistent in weapon skills and critical hits. But a lot of people (and I am on the same boat) is to worry about hitting in the first place, then stacking STR/PIE/ATK afterwards. I say if your combos miss, you're a poor DRG. Will take accuracy over a little more potency as it is right now.

[Lux_Rayna]

Personally, I think the Drachenmail is likely superior at the moment. Oh wait, I completely forgot about the Poison Resistance on the tabard! Yeah, tabard wins easily.

I actually don't play DRG much nowadays, but I find people's obsession with ACC way overblown. Sure, Impulse Drive sucks but in trying to make it 99% accurate you significantly overshoot on everything else.

If impulse drive misses your dps is trash. If you played DRG nowadays on things like Garuda, you'd find that you can almost never have enough acc. You need to make Impulse drive as accurate as the dps skills of other classes like monk, arc, and war. If you don't, then your dps will never be able to compete with their combos, because you wont be completing combos at all..in some cases wont even be able to start them.

Yes. Explorer's Tabard is the better choice than Drachenmail end-game wise. While the enhance invigorate is nice, without gearswap you're only hurting yourself unless you have a triple melded acc hart guisarme laying around somewhere. Unless you're hitting the 460+ without food and buffs I would definitely pick explorer's or a double-triple melded cobalt hauby (red).

^ that. Acc is way more important than a measly 7 pie and enhanced invigorate. TP is pointless if you waste it missing impulse drive. Plus Drachen Mail is a pretty sub par piece of gear, almost anything is better than it these days.