Will Beastmaster appear in any Endwalker content patches?

[Raikai]

On a limited job Beastmaster, I can:

Grind for obsolete Allied Seals
Get carried by someone else to max level
Do time-limited Moogle events for rewards I already own from last expac

So yeah I think I'll take a full job version.

That is just an assumption that it would have the same features of Blue Mages. Chances it would not, since limited jobs don't need to follow the rigidity of regular jobs.

Heck, they could even - not - feature regular combat as their main activity. I can see the BST having a few innate actions so they wouldn't be completely helpless in the world map/dungeons while hunting for new pets... And their main combat featuring a separate system of pet versus pet.

[aveyond-dreams]

That does nothing to address the fact that overworld combat is extremely simple and offers a poor experience for levelling compared to something like a dungeon, which would at least have something in the way of mechanics. I'll also gladly trade an alleged "op!" status for being able to play with other people and being able to take the job through the story. As for pets-again, less is more. Quality over quantity. Give a few innate good ones or have them be like Reaper animations.

[Deceptus]

Per the LL they're not even sure when the BLU update is going to be.

Basically: Don't hold your breath.

[Aluja89]

Could you guys stop trying to monkey paw the things I want?

Since 1.0 I wanted BLU and BST, one is already ruined, I hope another finger didn't curl for the other.

[MellowMink]

Per the LL they're not even sure when the BLU update is going to be.

Basically: Don't hold your breath.

If Blue Mage is still going to be the only “limited job” for a while, it’s weird to me that many of the Duty Finder descriptions still make a big deal about the broad concept of a “limited job” not being allowed even though that category has only included one job for years now.

[Gaethan_Tessula]

If Blue Mage is still going to be the only “limited job” for a while, it’s weird to me that many of the Duty Finder descriptions still make a big deal about the broad concept of a “limited job” not being allowed even though that category has only included one job for years now.

That's definitely future proofing, for the potential of later limited jobs. We know other hypothetical jobs were considered for limited status, but the divisive reaction to BLU may have discouraged expansion of the system.

Your reasons didn't explain why players who like using the DF shouldn't be allowed to use it as BLU.

1. If you don't like being forced in the caster role as BLU... [snip snip]

2. If you find the DF set suboptimal... [snip snip]

Emphasis mine.

My arguments are not about me, aside from my initial statement that I do not want to see a role-flexible, support heavy, and customizable BLU vanish from the game. If Square Enix threw the gates open and let BLU as-is into duty finder tomorrow, you'd find me playing it there.

My arguments have been about what Square Enix Business Division 5 will allow within the design paradigm of current mainstage content, given past precedent. This is the dev team that won't even create healers that press more than one button half the time (in the game's hardest content). That has systematically removed crowd-control from unlimited toolkits since HW. That values the solo player experience, accessibility, and appearance of polish over depth of gameplay.

Do you seriously think they would (not should, would) metaphorically move heaven and hell to fit BLU into the game's balance? Would clumsily kludge BLU into DF by making it play differently from PF, which is the equivalent of fixing a nuclear reactor with duct tape and twine? Without ripping out many of the present features fans of the job enjoy?

I don't. After seeing how SE has treated many of the jobs I love or used to love over the years, I don't feel like going double-or-nothing, on bad odds, for the perfect blue when I enjoy the current one.

[Rymi64]

It's possible, not everything was on their road map and matsuno himself wants it added in some capacity (and even offered to help write it) so I could see it

[Shurrikhan]

My arguments are not about me, aside from my initial statement that I do not want to see a role-flexible, support heavy, and customizable BLU vanish from the game. If Square Enix threw the gates open and let BLU as-is into duty finder tomorrow, you'd find me playing it there.

My arguments have been about what Square Enix Business Division 5 will allow within the design paradigm of current mainstage content, given past precedent. This is the dev team that won't even create healers that press more than one button half the time (in the game's hardest content). That has systematically removed crowd-control from unlimited toolkits since HW. That values the solo player experience, accessibility, and appearance of polish over depth of gameplay.

Do you seriously think they would (not should, would) metaphorically move heaven and hell to fit BLU into the game's balance? Would clumsily kludge BLU into DF by making it play differently from PF, which is the equivalent of fixing a nuclear reactor with duct tape and twine? Without ripping out many of the present features fans of the job enjoy?

I don't. After seeing how SE has treated many of the jobs I love or used to love over the years, I don't feel like going double-or-nothing, on bad odds, for the perfect blue when I enjoy the current one.

That's a fair concern, and as much as I'd like to see certain gimmicks that I see as lazy outliers replaced with more cohesive fits for their surrounding kits, I would not be okay with BLU losing available support or role-flexibility by way of gameplay (even if I would be okay, for instance, with Diamondback not being quite so absurdly powerful and nearly cost-less in snap usage, etc., etc.).

[Razhius]

I'm sorry to say, if you want to play beastmaster or any other decent pet job like puppet master or summoner, u need to head to ffxi..

The sandbox style world of 11 allows for these jobs to thrive.

Where almost nothing is instanced.

As much as I love 14, the one thing I loved about 11 was that the world was immersive. Dungeons, strongholds etc. Were actually explorable areas, with secret passages, puzzles, danger around every corner.

In 11 I remember doing crazy things as BST. Taking on nms with 3 BST that would take a full alliance to fight etc. Was amazing

[Rymi64]

I'm sorry to say, if you want to play beastmaster or any other decent pet job like puppet master or summoner, u need to head to ffxi..

The sandbox style world of 11 allows for these jobs to thrive.

Where almost nothing is instanced.

As much as I love 14, the one thing I loved about 11 was that the world was immersive. Dungeons, strongholds etc. Were actually explorable areas, with secret passages, puzzles, danger around every corner.

In 11 I remember doing crazy things as BST. Taking on nms with 3 BST that would take a full alliance to fight etc. Was amazing

I mean I like ff14's version of summoner (4.x-6.x) so I wouldn't mind them doing a ff14 version of beast master. If they make it limited it would allow them to do more cool stuff but if they add it as a non-limited I'm sure they could make it fun still.