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    Meridia Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    Because the Skybuilder weapon is a relic which is a personal achievement thing. I have one skybuilder weapon, for my BSM, however I can craft HQ 4 star items with all of my crafters just fine without it. The ONLY thing having the skybuilder tool for my BSM helps me with is, wait for it, Expert crafting.
    So you admit it's better than penta-melded, which by definition is, wait for it, more than just a personal achievement. That's like saying you wouldn't take raid drops because you can get the same ilevel gear with tomes, even though most classes use a combination for the best itemization.
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    So you admit it's better than penta-melded, which by definition is, wait for it, more than just a personal achievement. That's like saying you wouldn't take raid drops because you can get the same ilevel gear with tomes, even though most classes use a combination for the best itemization.
    Only if you are going to Expert craft. So if you want to go for the personal achievement crafting, then yes you are better off having the personal achievement crafting tool. If all you are doing is crafting normal items, then you can indeed ignore the existence of Skysteel tools. There is no need to go after it for any other reason than personal achievement. As someone else pointed out in some scenarios, depending on how you melded, your penta-melded tool can actually be better than the skysteel.
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menriq View Post
    As an omnicrafter who also has the Skybuilder version, I'm curious how you don't realize that these relics are better than the penta-meleded Aesthete's? Unless I'm missing something, that seems to qualify as something more than "personal achievements".
    https://i.imgur.com/Y5uM42t.jpg

    Not a big difference. In fact, I stuck with my 490 melded tools because I wanted the extra control. I have more than enough crafting.
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    Expert crafting mechanics aren’t really meant for the average player that relies on macros to craft everything. You have to really understand what you’re doing kind of like a savage or ultimate raid. Hence the word “expert”
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Macro's do....not....equal 100% thats all I will say on that.
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    Imora Dal'syn
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    If your crafting system results in macros being used most of the time, that's a flaw in your system. People aren't crafting because they want to, but because they feel that they have to. Especially with how easily crafters make Gil.

    I don't know a single average non crafter that's swimming in tens to hundreds of millions of gil, but I know crafters that are, and whenever asked how to make money, the response is "it's so easy! Coffee biscuits!"

    It makes me hate omnicrafters. Smugness. Makes me ill.

    But yeah, if people are macroing your crafting, there's a flaw with the system.

    As for solutions, well, they could try blacklisting crafter actions from the macro syntax. That'd break them all right there.
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    who actually enjoys crafting in any video game?
    this game probably has one of the best crafting systems ive come across but thats not saying much.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    who actually enjoys crafting in any video game?
    this game probably has one of the best crafting systems ive come across but thats not saying much.
    \o

    First thing I do in any MMO is look for the tradeskill system. I've crafted more in this game than any other activity combined. I also enjoy it when it's included in single player games, too.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Oh jeez, the Skybuilder tools were just annoying. Going 33 steps without a single Pliant. There is definitely far too much RNG.

    Having events that you need to react to isn't a bad thing. That's one thing I enjoyed about EQII's crafting. But they algorithm for the RNG is far too random. And they would benefit from boosts for reacting to the events, maybe something like successfully reacting to one increases the likelihood of the next, etc. Just something more interactive and intriguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    who actually enjoys crafting in any video game?
    this game probably has one of the best crafting systems ive come across but thats not saying much.
    I see you have a deep obession with the word pigzig *whips out pad and pen* So when did you first become attach to this word.
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