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  1. #11
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    Limecat's Avatar
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    With the removal of HQ gathered items, SE wanting to put an end to macro crafting, and changes to either the formulas or all equips in general to accommodate the loss of stats from belts, I can't help but be a bit suspicious that they're going to to shift all of crafting towards the expert way of doing things. I just hope that's as far as they take it though, and don't do a repeat of the goddamned dumpster fire that was 3.1~ high-end crafting and gathering.
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  2. #12
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    Naoki34's Avatar
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    To much RNG ?
    When you have the stat and the right cycle, it's 100% young newbie, even from NQ.
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  3. #13
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    I am wondering if when we are 90 it will be just a couple buttons. Using 100% fill quality skill or they will nerf that.
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  4. #14
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    To much RNG and can never get the quality built up due to it. I seen some macros that almost let you get the minimum quality possibly. If I may ask who can I blame for this hot mess lol. Couldn't leave well enough alone
    Expert was intended for end game crafters who like a challenge, not for the average crafter. Personally, I've have fun with it even the rewards are a bit lacking compared to normal crafting.

    If you don't enjoy it, don't do it. If you're just trying to get your Skybuilder tools and you're on the last part, use one of the macros that will get you minimum required rating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    With the removal of HQ gathered items, SE wanting to put an end to macro crafting, and changes to either the formulas or all equips in general to accommodate the loss of stats from belts, I can't help but be a bit suspicious that they're going to to shift all of crafting towards the expert way of doing things. I just hope that's as far as they take it though, and don't do a repeat of the goddamned dumpster fire that was 3.1~ high-end crafting and gathering.
    I doubt that. Expert will continue to be the "hardcore" side game within crafting. They want crafting in general, including Master, to be accessible.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-27-2021 at 06:22 AM.

  5. #15
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    Ravor's Avatar
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    Ravor Elliard
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    Atomos
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    This is just my suggestion on expert crafting, start with muscle memory and try to proc mallable status in the 5 turn, use veneration, manipulation and inner quite, etc and when you get mallable, use rapid synthesis, if that fail and you lose your muscle memory just reset to not waste time, i get my 100 expert crafting this way, if the start not working, you can at least save time to not do the rest
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  6. #16
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Expert Crafting feels like a return to ARR endgame crafting... which I actually welcome.

    Regular crafting has become way too simple and everything can be accomplished with enough stats and brute force macros.

    For now, Expert crafting is isolated to side content... curious to see if they'll try to roll over any of the stuff from 80 expert crafting into 90 endgame crafting in EW.
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  7. #17
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    Avellin Adorel
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    To much RNG and can never get the quality built up due to it. I seen some macros that almost let you get the minimum quality possibly. If I may ask who can I blame for this hot mess lol. Couldn't leave well enough alone
    Heaven forbid the crafting community gets something challenging to do.

    Expert crafts aren't needed for anything other than personal achievements. If you enjoy getting personal achievements then you will enjoy trying to learn expert crafts.
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    Expert crafting mechanics aren’t really meant for the average player that relies on macros to craft everything. You have to really understand what you’re doing kind of like a savage or ultimate raid. Hence the word “expert”
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  9. #19
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Macro's do....not....equal 100% thats all I will say on that.
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  10. #20
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    Meridia Astra
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    Maduin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    Heaven forbid the crafting community gets something challenging to do.

    Expert crafts aren't needed for anything other than personal achievements. If you enjoy getting personal achievements then you will enjoy trying to learn expert crafts.
    As an omnicrafter who also has the Skybuilder version, I'm curious how you don't realize that these relics are better than the penta-meleded Aesthete's? Unless I'm missing something, that seems to qualify as something more than "personal achievements".
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