Dungeons we need to talk dungeons

[Velnora]

or maybe the west is just wrong in their mentality and the dungeon design is fine and in the end japan is all that matter anyway if the japanese players think its fine its fine but if you need this challenge you seem to crave I hear there some game called World of Warcraft waiting for you .... their obsession with challenge turned the playerbase into a complete toxic cesspool

Japanese level design has been trash for awhile now. This isn't exclusive to FF14. From Software is an exception.