Maybe us old timers need to scour side quests and flavor text.

[SannaR]

I have an alt that I mostly don't touch, but because I want the Regalia on her I've been doing some level grinding. Today I did a Brotherhood of Ash repeatable that has you go to spots called tempered ground. You wait and fight a Tempered person. When they're kneeling on the ground you sprinkle what's called sacred ash. It's a failed attempt to try and untemper non Amalj'aa. When you turn in the quest the Amalj'aa says that even though it failed their people won't give up on trying to find something that'll work.

So, I'm left wondering what other most players probably didn't read/pay attention to things that might exist between 2.0 and 3.4/3.5 when we meet GA Bu and then between then and meeting Halric that hint at people trying to work on a possible cure for tempering.

When you use the ash most yell in pain saying that it burns while others ask Ifrit for aid.

[Lihtleita]

....did we ever get around to untempering that loon gah's mother?

[Cleretic]

....did we ever get around to untempering that loon gah's mother?

I would be more surprised at her being alive than dead. It's been A WHILE, and the Ifrit-worshipping Amal'jaa both A: love to summon Ifrit, and B: love to use human sacrifices for it.

But yes, I do absolutely agree with checking out old ARR stuff especially. There's a lot of stuff that ARR states as fact or lays down to build on later, that a lot of people just don't retain because it's said before we have any context as to what's important.

[Iscah]

the Ifrit-worshipping Amal'jaa both A: love to summon Ifrit, and B: love to use human sacrifices for it.

Where do you get the "human sacrifice" bit from? They certainly love to offer people's souls to Ifrit and increase the number of worshippers, but no mention I can recall of physical sacrifice, and there are a number of living tempered people around Zanr'ak – there's a whole encampment of tempered Flames who don't seem to be prisoners.

[JeanneOrnitier]

Where do you get the "human sacrifice" bit from? They certainly love to offer people's souls to Ifrit and increase the number of worshippers, but no mention I can recall of physical sacrifice, and there are a number of living tempered people around Zanr'ak – there's a whole encampment of tempered Flames who don't seem to be prisoners.

It's not the Amalj'aa, but Ga Bu's parents were sacrificed to summoned Titan in 3.4.

[Jandor]

Where do you get the "human sacrifice" bit from? They certainly love to offer people's souls to Ifrit and increase the number of worshippers, but no mention I can recall of physical sacrifice, and there are a number of living tempered people around Zanr'ak – there's a whole encampment of tempered Flames who don't seem to be prisoners.

IIRC the original three primals extreme fights have a human sacrifice component to them.

[Iscah]

IIRC the original three primals extreme fights have a human sacrifice component to them.

It's a sacrifice, but willing self-sacrifice of a devoted worshipper – a beastman, not human – to create the ritual foci that fuel the summonings.

[JeanneOrnitier]

....did we ever get around to untempering that loon gah's mother?

If she's still alive then an attempt to untemper her with the Porxie method probably happened offscreen. I doubt they'd ever integrate a beast tribe questline into the MSQ.

[KylePearlsand]

....did we ever get around to untempering that loon gah's mother?

All things considered, she's probably far too gone by now. It's mentioned in the 5.55 MSQ that if a tempered is exposed for an extensive and repeated amount of time, there isn't any hope for them. This is seen with the Garleans at Carteneau. She's likely been exposed to Ifrit repeatedly based on her state of mind when she was found.

[GoldStarz]

All things considered, she's probably far too gone by now. It's mentioned in the 5.55 MSQ that if a tempered is exposed for an extensive and repeated amount of time, there isn't any hope for them. This is seen with the Garleans at Carteneau. She's likely been exposed to Ifrit repeatedly based on her state of mind when she was found.

I don't believe this is based on time tempered, since there's no way those Garleans were tempered for longer than a month or so max while Ga Bu was tempered by Titan for several times long as that. I'm pretty sure it's more to do with the repeatedly tempered part and given how Loon Gah's mother doesn't seem to have any lizard-like traits, it's not impossible she could be untempered based off of that.