Trust system for Trials

[solimiano]

I think your missing my point, by design you cannot die with Trusts, if you do the trial would reset since there is only one fight, you would never progress.
You can do it in 5 minutes with a team of players it would take me 110 minutes to do it with Trusts, I still choose the second.
If I fail, there's only me, I don't fail because someone failed...
Most of the content can either be cleared with squadrons or Trusts, no reason not to make all content available for that bar the latest raid/extreme/ultimate.
Please bear in mind this is only my opinion and nothing else.

[Eldevern]

Technically, it seems they already follow this path. The question sounds less if they will do that than how far will they go.

[HollowedDoll]

It could help with niche trials at dead queue hours.

[Momo_Kozuki]

No idea why ppl are so hostile to this suggestion, especially if it's just for the Normal Story Mode Trials, which are already easy to begin with.

I'd draw the line at all optional trials and raids that don't impact MSQ advancement though, even if there is a normal/extreme/savage split. Optional content you can go out and engage with the public, mandatory content you can have a guide if you choose.

The thing is that to have Trust doing Trials during Stody mode, you would need every of your Trust members to present at that part of the story. What if some of the Trust member are missing because they have their own stuffs to do? You will have to have temporary Trust like Lina in ShB's first dungeon, which means developers have to design single-use Trust with proper rotations. Then again, the story writer has to make sure there are enough Trust standing in front of the Trials' portals to fill 7 party member slots for a story-mode trial, restricting the flow of the story.

If you suggest Trust for Avatar mode where you have all members available are not restricted by the story, sure, but what is the point? You can only get Avatar Mode of something after complete it, nullify the need of being able to do Trial with Trust, and sound like extra work for nothing for developers. Assuming you use Trust to learn trials' mechanic, I'm not sure how learning trials' normal mechanic will be a lot helpful for extreme version.

[HollowedDoll]

The thing is that to have Trust doing Trials during Stody mode, you would need every of your Trust members to present at that part of the story. What if some of the Trust member are missing because they have their own stuffs to do? You will have to have temporary Trust like Lina in ShB's first dungeon, which means developers have to design single-use Trust with proper rotations. Then again, the story writer has to make sure there are enough Trust standing in front of the Trials' portals to fill 7 party member slots for a story-mode trial, restricting the flow of the story.

If you suggest Trust for Avatar mode where you have all members available are not restricted by the story, sure, but what is the point? You can only get Avatar Mode of something after complete it, nullify the need of being able to do Trial with Trust, and sound like extra work for nothing for developers. Assuming you use Trust to learn trials' mechanic, I'm not sure how learning trials' normal mechanic will be a lot helpful for extreme version.

That is true, 7 designated story characters are kind of a stretch which I didn't think about.

[aveyond-dreams]

It makes more sense for the party of the scions to do trials with us as opposed to...random people who just happen to be there. That is unless we use Azem summoning magic against the Magus Sisters and Anima.

[Caitsithhh]

I have 350* hours into the game and I have never experienced these sorts of problems. That isn't to say it doesn't happen, only that I don't think altering a big feature or spending time and limited resources implementing a different feature to combat it is going to happen, since it's not as wide spread as SE would consider as a "problem". It also doesn't sound like a solution to what is very clearly the real issue though. SE staff needs a better presence in game to deal with attitudes like that, as well as any other toxic or problematic behavior. Putting a band aid on the issue does nothing.

Na they are JP based and NA AND EU are slowly picking up on there are just players that don’t mesh well with the community. As such you just don’t put yourself in a situation you have no business or “playstyle” to handle. IE stay your lane and you’re fine. Nm trial and dungeon banter is and always will be places where toxicity should be dealt a jail visit. PF tho now that’s a different story. You’re expected to have a clue how to play or be willing to find like minds/bots…whatever is your cup of tea. Now catching a lucky break and beating E4s in 529 gear level and thinking you’re qualified for TEA is actual mental illness as far as this community goes.

Baseline, know where you should be in game and don’t be the guy thinking you can get carried outside old content and good hearts. That attitude of “I pay a sub and as such deserve that glowy weap” will be dealt with harshly eventually.

[Moonlite]

The thing is that to have Trust doing Trials during Stody mode, you would need every of your Trust members to present at that part of the story. What if some of the Trust member are missing because they have their own stuffs to do? You will have to have temporary Trust like Lina in ShB's first dungeon, which means developers have to design single-use Trust with proper rotations. Then again, the story writer has to make sure there are enough Trust standing in front of the Trials' portals to fill 7 party member slots for a story-mode trial, restricting the flow of the story.

If you suggest Trust for Avatar mode where you have all members available are not restricted by the story, sure, but what is the point? You can only get Avatar Mode of something after complete it, nullify the need of being able to do Trial with Trust, and sound like extra work for nothing for developers. Assuming you use Trust to learn trials' mechanic, I'm not sure how learning trials' normal mechanic will be a lot helpful for extreme version.

Why not just generic skinned trusts? Taking away the AI issues. Having more trusts is just a reskin of current ones to increase the amount. I am actually surprised and still think it would happen is unique cash shop trusts. FF 11, 13 and 15 already have models in the game. And as much as i disagree with people that FF14 clearly has pay to win mechanics. Cash shop trusts would be no more pay to win then skips or retainers.

[Seera1024]

Why not just generic skinned trusts? Taking away the AI issues. Having more trusts is just a reskin of current ones to increase the amount. I am actually surprised and still think it would happen is unique cash shop trusts. FF 11, 13 and 15 already have models in the game. And as much as i disagree with people that FF14 clearly has pay to win mechanics. Cash shop trusts would be no more pay to win then skips or retainers.

Trials have tended to be get some of your adventurer friends together so they could always do random creation of Trust members should they decide to go this route. I still hope they don't as the current AI isn't going to help them keep interesting mechanics in Trials and I'd rather they put the time and effort into things that more players will enjoy than making a better AI for Trial trust members.

Cash shop trusts could just be so that players can use specific skins for trust members.

[KroxMcKrumble]

Doesn't this demean the whole concept of playing an MMO though?
Why not just ask that FF14 has a converted single-player mode.
If the potential of having a bad experience during an online interaction is a major concern, then you probably shouldn't play an online-based game.