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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    "It´s absolutely disgusting in which direction the whole gaming industry went because of this bs."

    The gaming industry's direction is directly due to the economics of publishing games. When something sells, it is held up as an example of how things should be. And, unfortunately for some of the more experienced gamers, "how things should be" isn't enough.

    The option is always there to pursue the one or two game publishers who do provide more depth in content and gameplay. If they exist. Entertainment publishers do not go out of their way to make content exceedingly difficult because difficult doesn't pay the bills. Go ask Carbine Studios about Wildstar and their promise to bring back the 'hardcore' in hardcore MMOs- and their lack of business acumen, of course.

    Players continue to play MMOs because ... they're invested. In the story. In the World. In their friendships. In their time and effort and the rewards that come from playing for what seems eternity. FFXI is still up-and-running. EQ and EQ2 are still around. Heck, even Ultima Online still has a game presence. Why? Because however small the player base, someone always considers these MMOs to be Home.

    Get frustrated. Sure.

    Vent about it. Sure.

    Start to diss on players whose capability you don't like because you think they hold your MMO hostage from better content. Not cool.

    Try to figure out exactly Why you still play this game and go with that.
    Once again, people can genuinely be mad that square enix is watering down their game for profits since you don't need to do mechanics in a lot fights to order to do beat them while also still enjoying parts of the game like story,music,aesthethic,housing system,etc..

    Your assumptions just make you look like a clown.

    Wildstar also failed for a number reasons that had nothing to do with difficulty, its end game systems (i.e., Paths)felt shallow and boring and seemed that it was more designed by committee than the result of a focused vision.

    It's story was done with little chat blurbs with next to no character development. It's story was shallow and unfulfilling with cutscenes that didn't even equal to half of other games like FFXIV would have.

    Also it suffered from "just enough content” syndrome that games like fallout 76 suffer from which means players would already be sick of the game and they would get scraps in updates.

    The game was a complete mess in terms of design and seemed like a hardcore mmo designed by in parts by different visions of what the game should be rather than a complete vision from one director.

    It's a complete misconception that wildstar failed because it was a "hardcore mmo", it failed because it was a MESS that wasn't worth the price tag of a full on mmo, it should have been free to play from the start.

    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    Pfui.

    You speak of bullying, yet bandy the word "troll" like a cudgel. Your assumption is that I have no respect for another's intelligence. I want to find out why they play the game, rather than looking for something more in line with their expressed desires. The question was relevant. The response, unfortunately, from them ... was the tirade that you quoted, which doesn't answer the question.

    I was interested in an actual answer from the poster. They have so far not given one.

    I well know the reasons that people play MMOs, and why they might want to continue playing even though they don't like something major about the game. As I said in a subsequent post:

    "Players continue to play MMOs because ... they're invested. "

    Is asking how they're invested now considered "bullying"?
    You seem to be intent on bullying her, thats why i called you a troll and a clown since you absolutely can't be serious about any of the points you are making.

    By saying things like "you don't enjoy the game at all since you want parts of it to be better" is genuinely a bad faith argument that lacks any logic.

    So i called you out..... so now i am the bully?

    Well even if i was(which i don't believe) i wouldn't feel bad about bullying a bully.

    You genuinely make arguments that lack any substance and are based on assumption, also like all people who argue in bad faith you hide behind "authority".

    Your claims as a mmo veteran somehow gives you any kind of special insight as if it had anything to do making your point stronger which it doesn't.

    I have just as much experience in playing all these mmos as you do if not more, do i swing it around like a bad faith cudgel that drips with the blood of logical fallacy(Appeal to authority)?

    No i do not.
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    Last edited by Deliciou5; 10-11-2021 at 01:28 AM.