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  1. #11
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I would definitely like to see some improvements to their leveling. Right now, it'll take at least a month if not longer to fully level from 1 to 90. Which is ridiculous. And our only option is to buy a skip. Even if resetting them only cut their EXP in half would at least make the process less tedious.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  2. #12
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I would definitely like to see some improvements to their leveling. Right now, it'll take at least a month if not longer to fully level from 1 to 90. Which is ridiculous. And our only option is to buy a skip. Even if resetting them only cut their EXP in half would at least make the process less tedious.
    Oh there are skips? I didn't even realize they existed.

    And yeah a month to fully level your new retainer is just silly. Especially when you're DoH and by the time they can get you materials, it's not even useful for you anymore.
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  3. #13
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Oh there are skips? I didn't even realize they existed.

    And yeah a month to fully level your new retainer is just silly. Especially when you're DoH and by the time they can get you materials, it's not even useful for you anymore.
    Yep. They added Retainer jump potions a while back. They're $9, $20.50 and $40.50 each in the same split as Fantasia. While I'm okay with them existing, I do find a little... scummy these potions are the only option to speed up retainer leveling.

    And exactly. I wanted to reset one of my retainers a while back but it'd take so long, it wouldn't even matter anymore.
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  4. #14
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    I'd appreciate it if they created a feature where the retainer would automatically gain the same amount of experience the player has on that class when summoning him/her. If, for example, I get 3 levels in Bozja between visits to the summoning bell, any retainers with that job will automatically have their XP total raised to be equal to mine when I interact with them.

    1. It hurts my heart that my retainers lose out on toooons of experience by sending them out on ventures when I haven't reached 80 on that job yet.

    2. If they can't level any higher than our max level for that job it seems to me that retainer XP gain is irrelevant. If they were allowed to level independently of the PC, then I could see it being of benefit. As it is, just let them stay at level parity with the level the PC has for that specific job.
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  5. #15
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KitKatnip View Post
    But we do have chocobos. And while I adore my chocobo, he's clearly not the brightest bulb in the bulb box. Maybe a retainer would behave smarter. Or maybe the retainer would behave just like a chocobo. I'm betting on the latter.
    If they were a DoW or DoM job I would think they'd behave like the squadron NPCs of the same job.
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  6. #16
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    Limecat Indignatio
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    What needs to happen is it removes the link to your jobs in some way. Either it looks at your highest level and makes that the cap for retainers no matter what class they're on, or better yet SE removes all the checks period. Get rid of that user-unfriendly jank we have now.
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  7. #17
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    What needs to happen is it removes the link to your jobs in some way. Either it looks at your highest level and makes that the cap for retainers no matter what class they're on, or better yet SE removes all the checks period. Get rid of that user-unfriendly jank we have now.
    I think a lot of the "user unfriendly jank" is there to slow down the bots and RMT crowd.

    if that is the case, I would certainly want more "jank" put in place and I dont care how unfriendly it is if it means I can compete on the MB with real humans and not bots.
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  8. #18
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    I think a lot of the "user unfriendly jank" is there to slow down the bots and RMT crowd.

    if that is the case, I would certainly want more "jank" put in place and I dont care how unfriendly it is if it means I can compete on the MB with real humans and not bots.
    In this particular case, the "jank" means nothing to the bots because they have no need to assign retainers combat classes/jobs. They get the retainers for the marketboard listings and storage, which don't require a class unlock.

    Even in general, it means nothing to bots that are simply following their programming. Things supposedly intended to hinder bots don't while players are negatively affected.

    The online gaming industry needs to rethink how they're approaching the bot issue.
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