Mch needs more

[Jirah]

Ah ''Elitism''. Forever the excuse of the mentally inept.

I don’t wanna perpetuate their quota, but it almost always seems they are dead set to not improve the game, where it be from difficulty overall, dungeon design, Healer philosophy, Trials, or just in general. They are always so adamant on keeping things comfortable for them, these are often the same people that don’t do harder content due to a stigma alone not the actual content and almost always want the game to bow down to their level of accessibility due to their utter refusal to learn or adapt and the devs are all but too willing to oblige. Not everyone is like this, but these specific individuals are a fungus in the game


And machinist is their host

[Jirah]

I see it being like NIN's Kassatsu or something like that. Something like : Air Anchor -> Reassemble -> Air Anchor CD resets and is changed to Chain Saw.
So instead of pressing reassemble on CD with Drill, there would be a little more planning to do.
It might become something like : Air Anchor -> Reassemble -> Chain Saw -> Reassemble -> Drill.

Edit: After rewatching: chainsaw gives at least 20 battery gauge, just like air anchor. So yeah, it is probably something like that.

This seems like heavy wishful thinking, they very clearly stated the rest of the adjustments are just actions added and the only action they can be referring to is a shotgun and the little *not full list of adjustments* only really applies to jobs where they were brief like SCH, DNC BRD, and RDM. I’m 100% certain Chainsaw is just another Gcd, it’s a toss if it’s a Aoe but if it is than MCH is completely unchanged

[Jirah]

Battery gauge on an AoE sounds unlikely to me. I am convinced it is single target.
And they listed 2 things, and mentioned one other:
-> Chain Saw added
-> 2 charges on reassemble
-> new action for the queen
Even the shotgun is not listed on the presentation. And they also don't say anything about how Chain Saw works. I personally think it is unlikely to be a simple GCD.
And of course, a lot of potency and cooldowns will be adjusted.
.

You forget what MCH main draw is, if it had any unique function they would’ve gone into some detail or somthing, but chose to move on to DNC

[Garnix]

You forget what MCH main draw is, if it had any unique function they would’ve gone into some detail or somthing, but chose to move on to DNC

The main draw of current machinist? What is it aside from the aesthetic of it?
What I am mentioning is not even a really unique function, it just is a new benefit to an existing ability which they said is changed to have charges...
And why would they go in more details? They did not for most other jobs either...

PLD gets a new confiteor combo. No idea how it functions. Does it replace goring and re-apply the DoT? Did they just extend goring duration? I don't know.
WAR gets a new action in inner release. Does it load up after 3 fell cleaves. Maybe it just lights up when you press inner release. Not quite sure.
DRK get the new salted earth follow up. GCD? oGCD? What does it do? How does it work? I don't know.
DRG, "a new action after doing your combo succesfully". What does "succesfully" mean exactly?
SAM, "a new action in the vein of Iaijutsu". Again "in the vein of" doesn't say anything really.
NIN getting new ninjutsus to enhance raiton etc. How does that work? Linked to Kassatsu? So they have to change the way Kassatsu works or is it something else entirely?
BRD...they did not even mention the new ability that can be used after going through the 3 songs...(unless I misunderstood what was said)
BLM...'under certain condition you get a new ability'. Again doesn't say anything on how it functionally works.
RDM...probably the best example. Most of the changes sound straightforward and they discussed this job at length, but they somehow managed to not explain the 3 stacks added to the gauge at all. What is their purpose? Do VerHoly potency depends on the amount of charges you get now? So maybe you don't have to do the full melee combo anymore and maybe there will be some optimization possible there... Or did they make VerHoly/flare a separate button so that you don't have to cast it immediately after the melee combo and keep your charges for later? Or does it change nothing?
Healers...

[Rongway]

RDM...probably the best example. Most of the changes sound straightforward and they discussed this job at length, but they somehow managed to not explain the 3 stacks added to the gauge at all. What is their purpose? Do VerHoly potency depends on the amount of charges you get now? So maybe you don't have to do the full melee combo anymore and maybe there will be some optimization possible there... Or did they make VerHoly/flare a separate button so that you don't have to cast it immediately after the melee combo and keep your charges for later? Or does it change nothing?

It's not a real gauge. It's just a combo tracker. The gauge empties if you abort your combo and it empties if you finish your combo. Don't overthink it.

[Garnix]

It's not a real gauge. It's just a combo tracker. The gauge empties if you abort your combo and it empties if you finish your combo. Don't overthink it.

Yup I think it was mostly added because of the new AoE finisher, since Moulinet is not a proper combo. But still...It's just as vague as the reassemble changes.

[KageTokage]

I'm expecting Chainsaw to just be a chunky AoE GCD that's situationally worth burning Disassemble on because presently, MCH has the worst AoE of the three ranged DPS by a fairly significant margin.

[CKNovel]

I'm expecting Chainsaw to just be a chunky AoE GCD that's situationally worth burning Disassemble on because presently, MCH has the worst AoE of the three ranged DPS by a fairly significant margin.

Queen finisher could be AoE.
Shotgun might change a lot, depending on its potency.

Wildfire remains unchange but how many asked for it to be AoE...

[Jirah]

The main draw of current machinist? What is it aside from the aesthetic of it?
What I am mentioning is not even a really unique function, it just is a new benefit to an existing ability which they said is changed to have charges...
And why would they go in more details? They did not for most other jobs either...

“Theirs really not much we can change with the MCH, but let’s talk about MCH anyways”

I think you need to rewatch the LL, because your getting your hopes up too much, and MCH main draw is its simple accessible nature, if MCH was as complex as SAM or tight as BLM it would not nearly be as popular. As seen by how popular simpler jobs are

[Mindiori]

Making things universally simple, has a habit of rendering reward obsolete. A laughable thing to table in a game based around long term investment. Fortunately for SE the braindeads are going to be oblivious regardless. Begging the question why you would tailor the challenge of anything, to a group who can't fathom what challenge even is to start with. No matter, the answer is 'financial greed' and 'milking easy demographics'. Say no more.