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  1. #41
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    Lalafells are pretty ugly tbh I wish they replaced it with loli'qotes like Khloe Aliapoh and T'kebbe Morh
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post


    Anyone else feel this way? It's got that uncanny valley doll look.
    Plainsfolk Lalafell have those unnatural, cat-like eyes. Dunesfolk Lalafell have more single-color anime-esque eyes that look more natural. Lalafell are also the only race in the game where all of the males faces look good, IMO (though admittedlly there is little variation between them).

    4 male races in FFXIV have severe problems. Elezen have unnaturally long necks that requires you to limit yourself to a handful of coats with neckties and high collars. Male Roegadyn don't have any good playabe faces (Gosetsu' face is good but you can't get it yourself), and have unappealing posture. Hrothgar have limited customization and weird posture. Male Viera are a complete "no" to me. And everyone else only have 1 or 2 faces that look decent. Kinda sad coming from WoW, where almost all of the faces look at least decent, if not good, and Blizzard adds new customization options regularly, whereas FFXIV does not.

    It also really doesn't help that FFXIV's lighting is rather bad. Most of the time a character is in shadow, or sometimes they will have too much lighting shining on them from a certain direction, bleaching them out. The characters only ever look really good in the few handcrafted cutscenes with lighting, or after spending several minutes in gpose trying to get the lighting right.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    That said I played WoW for a long time and it doesn't have it nearly as bad, but I did see weird stuff occasionally with the newer models.
    I love WoW's character models. The one gripe I have with them is that their faces were not rigged for ingame close ups shots. It was only until very recently that we finally got an ingame cutscene with a close up shot where the facial acting actually looked decent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsiron View Post
    I don't like WoW's art style and I wish they'd updated their designs back when they did their models, but you have to concede they actually had the guts to give players some unconventional races (... well, the males, at least) to choose from, Draenei, Worgen, Tauren, Trolls etc.

    Honestly even FFXI's races got all of their (minimal) weirdness sanded off in the transition to FFXIV: Mithra used to have weird hair patterns, cat noses and etc., Elvaan were even lankier, Galka had tails, that kind of stuff. Makes me really curious how Au Ra would've looked had they been in that game?
    I guess I'm beating a dead horse but yeah, the non-human races of WoW were awesome. Kinda disappointing that every FFXIV race is just another variation of a human.

    I personally prefer Lalafell to Tarutaru but the latter's almost "wooden doll" appearance was unique.
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  3. #43
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    I actually find the Tarutaru in FFXI to be cuter than the lalafell we have in FFXIV. However I prefer the facial design of the Miqo'te over the more feline looking faces of the Mithra in FFXI. TBH when it comes to the 3 other races in FFXI and their counterparts here in terms of faces they look the same overall to me aside from the FFXIV side having more detail.

    Personally I rarely play a tall character in a game if given a choice because there are few tall character options I find in games that I really like and also tend to not be a real fan of bulky muscular builds either. At the same time I don't often play really short characters (in that 3ft-ish range) in games either unless I find their design and appearance really cute.
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  4. #44
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    New fashion police in the hood.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    Well I never said other games are immune to the problem either.
    That said I played WoW for a long time and it doesn't have it nearly as bad, but I did see weird stuff occasionally with the newer models.




    It would not surprise me since there is a lot of graphic variation depending on hardware and I play on mid to low. If there's any settings worth messing with you can let me know.
    Ah ok, so this is a troll thread. If you actually played WoW for more than 2 minutes youd be bombarded with incredibly ugly and terrible models, expressions, lightning, etc. everywhere at all times.
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    They look like typical animated characters to me.

    Have you ever heard of the disorder Prosopagnosia? It causes people to have difficulty perceiving/recognizing faces and facial expressions. A common complaint people with this disorder make is that other faces look 'weird' to them. Perhaps your dislike for in-game faces is an aspect of something like this.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosopagnosia
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    "If you pay attention to the world, it's an amazing place. If you don't, it's whatever you think it is.” – Reggie Watts

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    To be fair. they went from FFXI which basically just let you chose a total of 8 heads for each race/gender combo as it's entire character creator process at the time to what we have in FFXIV when the game launched. The issue with revamping the character creator in this title in regards to body shape options at least probably isn't the character editor itself but the actual item database of body slot gear items that exists that probably would need to be reformatted or altered to work with new slider options. New face editing options would be nice and likely less work to implement in theory at least but that kind of hinges on how code works in regards to facial expressions and animations. However if they were to at least add new facial options it would most likely cause a very noticeable spike in fantasia sales.

    I've never been a huge fan of the character art style of WoW. I get it was derived from unit portraits and sprites from the warcraft games. The smaller portraits and sprites in those titles didn't really bother me because of the type of game it was. It didn't translate well to me into an MMO where everything is viewed much closer. I actually prefer the dated FFXI visuals over WoW even after it's enhancements a few years ago. However visual appeal is all subjective to individual tastes. I used to joke with ppl when that WoW movie came out that the reason there is no FFXIV movie is because a movie company couldn't make an FFXIV movie look better visually than the game like they could with WoW.
    I don't care about WoW or the artstyle - it's now become more cartoonish/ whimsical similar to Wildstar (I actually liked the way wildstar looked though) My BF who did play WoW wanted the art style to become more realistic/ darker

    I'm aware of how limited the character creator was in XI
    It's not that I'm not appreciative that we can pick and choose noses, lip size, eye shape etc but it all could use a touch up. ( Like being able to wear more than 1 face paint at a time & new hair & eye colour saturations. )

    I'd be for new faces in general but more for new hairstyles or NPC hairstyles added for player use. Actually- Hilda's ponytail & Lyse's ponytail > anything else
    Maybe new faces with updates similar to Viera (eyelashes/freckles/new make-up etc) with the addition of a few new hairstyles Or share Viera hairstyles with the other races.
    It won't happen though, I do not think the character creator will ever be updated- The probability of us getting new hairstyles is more likely.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Pigzig View Post
    Why am I not surprised at a response like this from a pink haired female character called Neko?
    Am I ugly?

    basic bitch dragon girl
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    I don't care about WoW or the artstyle - it's now become more cartoonish/ whimsical similar to Wildstar (I actually liked the way wildstar looked though) My BF who did play WoW wanted the art style to become more realistic/ darker

    I'm aware of how limited the character creator was in XI
    It's not that I'm not appreciative that we can pick and choose noses, lip size, eye shape etc but it all could use a touch up. ( Like being able to wear more than 1 face paint at a time & new hair & eye colour saturations. )

    I'd be for new faces in general but more for new hairstyles or NPC hairstyles added for player use. Actually- Hilda's ponytail & Lyse's ponytail > anything else
    Maybe new faces with updates similar to Viera (eyelashes/freckles/new make-up etc) with the addition of a few new hairstyles Or share Viera hairstyles with the other races.
    It won't happen though, I do not think the character creator will ever be updated- The probability of us getting new hairstyles is more likely.
    The fact they've repeatedly added new hairstyles to me points to that being the easiest thing to add to the character creator.

    Funny enough as much as I disliked WoW from it's visual style to how the game actually played I did enjoy and like Wildstar which ppl often called WoW in space. It was a shame the service of that game ended some years ago.
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    There is definitely an creepy vibe with certain races/faces. I personally can't stand the Au Ra face 1 because of this, for example.

    And yeah, Viera and hrothgar have some nice polygons/texturing on their faces compared to other races so it isn't as bad, probably because they are new, the other faces need updating to match. I can't go back to Au Ra or Miqo'te due to it.

    And Lalafell look like hell-spawn when they grin and cheer, those little gremlins. I am also creeped out by them, OP.
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