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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    Future darks won't know what past dark was and a lot of veterans have quit....so a message to future drk players is a message to people who've never played it pre shb?
    Players that play DRK now will never know what it was like to be an OG HW Dark Knight. So a lot of the issues the OG HW DRKS have are going to be dismissed.
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    bundythenoob's Avatar
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    Allie Millfleurx
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    Coeurl
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    did you read the first post? I stated that the whole reason for this thread is to give the new players (mostly WoW players) context about how the game is going downhill in a scarily similar manner to WoW, and I posted changes they could try to fight for the CURRENT version of DRK. This thread was also intended to allow new DRKs to read up on what the remaining veterans have grievances with, so they too can begin to understand where the problems come from and why the kit feels so disjointed.

    I know that players don't have context on the older version of the job's kit, but they DO have context on the CURRENT kit and how disjointed it feels. there's a reason more and more new players are posting things all across different platforms about how the resource generation aspect of the kit feels as though it lacks impact, the different abilities have no synergy with each other as opposed to almost every other job in the game, and how they can ask for changes that would benefit the CURRENT kit without coming to another rework. the skeleton is usable, and it could definitely use a good tuning, but since square enix REFUSES to put money back into the game to hire the necessary developers to fix prevalent problems that have existed since HW, money that YOU GUYS are paying, that's how we end up with the situation we are in.



    "there wasn't much we could really do with SCH/DRK/BRD/MCH/RDM/SMN/DRG"
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    Dogempire's Avatar
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    Okami Amaterasuu
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Personally I enjoy the current iteration of DRK but something about it just feels vaguely... wrong?

    Dunno, I've been using it and GNB to prog solo HoH and while I really think DRK feels a lot better to play for that kind of content vs GNB it really does seem to be missing any complexity in the kit outside of maybe "How am I going to be popping this TBN?"

    Personally I wish they would just get rid of Delirium and revamp the whole job and build around the other skills like blood drain or having TBN generate resources depending on how much of it breaks (Instead of all or nothing like we have since it's not even realistic that it'll break in some fights)
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    Watching forum drama be like

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    Shin96's Avatar
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    You want to see a change? Don't level it.

    It can be as simple as a meme; all jobs leveled but DRK sits either at 0 or 80. They're going to fix it eventually. By the time they do it however I think most people have moved on.
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    ArthurATDayne's Avatar
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    Arthur-at Dayne
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    Excalibur
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    You want to see a change? Don't level it.

    It can be as simple as a meme; all jobs leveled but DRK sits either at 0 or 80. They're going to fix it eventually. By the time they do it however I think most people have moved on.
    I'm intending to do that and not just to make a statement but because evaluating the 80-90 progression and traits & skill rewards for playing my 80 Paladin vs Dark Knight, the Clear Choice is 100% Paladin. I'm not leveling up my Dark Knight for Lame Trash like Oblation, Enhanced Unmend, Shadowbringer 2 Charge 60 second CD skill that just sits on hotbar with no interaction with rest of kit, Living Shadow II, No Way! Looks like a huge unrewarding waste of time to level the Dark Knight to 90, there's nothing fun to look forward to.

    Holy Sheltron, Enhanced Intervention, Divine Magic Mastery II, Spirits Within Mastery, Super Cool Requiescat CONFITEOR Hard Hitting COMBO every 60 seconds and all that extra mitigation, self heals and heal over time in rotation + mitigation, Paladin or Dark Knight? Paladin All the Way.
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    Last edited by ArthurATDayne; 10-15-2021 at 07:02 AM.

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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    You want to see a change? Don't level it.

    It can be as simple as a meme; all jobs leveled but DRK sits either at 0 or 80. They're going to fix it eventually. By the time they do it however I think most people have moved on.
    Forum is a minority. It literally won't matter. DRK is screwed. They will gravitate to other Tanks with a better kit or move to Reaper that has everything traditional Dark Knights in Final Fantasy fans have wanted for a long time. Especially with the FF XI iteration of Dark Knight.
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Forum is a minority. It literally won't matter. DRK is screwed. They will gravitate to other Tanks with a better kit or move to Reaper that has everything traditional Dark Knights in Final Fantasy fans have wanted for a long time. Especially with the FF XI iteration of Dark Knight.
    Might be a minority but people here, at least some, are more qualified to make statements on this job. The myth of the majority is that this is always used in response to a vocal group of people they don't agree with. So the "majority" to put things into perspective, they really don't care. Most people take things as they come, as was the case with many changes throghout this game's life cycle.

    I want to remind people not to respond to someone that is dismissive of our feedback. Please don't give them a platform. If they are happy they can remain as is and play the job, minus to you when it's not even your main and you run your mouth like a dimwit.

    As for Reaper.. same thing can happen here. Don't be afraid to say what you think, it's more important to us than them.
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    Kane Blackstone
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    In Heavensward, we had so much.

    I guess we're still paying the price for that.
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    isnt it messed up that goblet is a housing area and not a tiny goblin
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shin96 View Post
    You want to see a change? Don't level it.

    It can be as simple as a meme; all jobs leveled but DRK sits either at 0 or 80. They're going to fix it eventually. By the time they do it however I think most people have moved on.
    strike like this doesn't work
    multiple people are still gonna level Drk
    either because they dont know/care about current situation or level achievements

    people said exact same thing "healer strike" when shb launched and nothing has changed even sage is basically SCH and WHM in one
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    Shin96's Avatar
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    Revon Ackerman
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    strike like this doesn't work
    multiple people are still gonna level Drk
    either because they dont know/care about current situation or level achievements

    people said exact same thing "healer strike" when shb launched and nothing has changed even sage is basically SCH and WHM in one
    Well in that case I believe we have concluded our dealings.

    Someone in that developement team must really hate this job, it's hard for me to explain the conundrum of additions in 6.0. What went inside the designers head when they created enhanced Unmend.
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