to Future DRK Players

[TheRealQuah]

Square listen to the community as a whole and have a huge amount of internal engagement tools that gives them the feedback they need to balance jobs.

The 2 largest job related polls in ShB that the community did rated DRK as both the second favourite job (and favourite tank) and rated at a 7.7/10 for job satisfaction.

I'm so glad that SE doesn't listen to the insanity that is posted in these forums, if they did the game would be ruined.

[Sazuzaki]

Square listen to the community as a whole and have a huge amount of internal engagement tools that gives them the feedback they need to balance jobs.

The 2 largest job related polls in ShB that the community did rated DRK as both the second favourite job (and favourite tank) and rated at a 7.7/10 for job satisfaction.

I'm so glad that SE doesn't listen to the insanity that is posted in these forums, if they did the game would be ruined.

Not trying to attack you, but genuinely curious question. What do you like about current DRK? Not saying everyone should hate it, I just want to hear what other people who *might* enjoy the current iteration like about the job other than TBN, aesthetic, or oGCDs.

Also, could you send a link to those polls? I wanna see them for myself. Unless its this one https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...avorite_final/ then I wouldn't really call it a reliable source since only like 600 people voted on that. But I have been looking at some of the other posts and would raise this post again that another person sent with 1.3k votes showing the side of people who don't like DRK rn: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...est_poll_lets/

If anything, I've been seeing a lot more as of recent outside of the forums complain that DRK really just has none of the spark is had before. It's all mainly delirium complaints for it being a trash IR, and honestly if only that got reworked for an expansion, I really wouldn't mind and would return to DRK in a heartbeat. The reason people like DRK in itself is largely just job aesthetic and its incredible storyline. MP management right now is pretty solid, but we could use some more spenders rather than just FoS/TBN, so maybe that too. So in the end, the reason people like DRK probably isn't because of how the class plays, it's the jobs animations and just look in general just does a good job at making the player look and feel badass. Of couse Delirium being a huge turn off for a lot of people who love the job currently, but everything else isn't the worst.

As I stated before, 5.0 DRK is a good base idea, but needs more adjustments imo.

Edit: This too, on a separate subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscus...s_dark_knight/

[Shin96]

I'm so glad that SE doesn't listen to the insanity that is posted in these forums, if they did the game would be ruined.

I find it very interesting that everything that deviates from the "popular" opinion is called insanity. There are players with legitimate concerns over how this job was and will be designed in the near future. Just because there are people that enjoy 5.0 DRK doesn't mean it goes for everyone.

You want unfiltered insanity? Go to General Discussion. You will find plenty and more; at least this place is a safe haven in comparison.

[Axxion]

Square listen to the community as a whole and have a huge amount of internal engagement tools that gives them the feedback they need to balance jobs.

The 2 largest job related polls in ShB that the community did rated DRK as both the second favourite job (and favourite tank) and rated at a 7.7/10 for job satisfaction.

I'm so glad that SE doesn't listen to the insanity that is posted in these forums, if they did the game would be ruined.

assuming this from a official census and not some post from reddit correct?

[EmpyreanHelios]

It's not that bad. You still have Flood of Shadow (oGCD AoE), Salted Earth (oGCD DoT AoE), and Quietus (Gauge AoE), so the AoE rotation gets fairly fleshed out.

Now this is the real healer PTSD: Just having Unleash from lv 10 to 80.

Don’t give them any ideas or that’s going to be the 7.0 iteration.

“People complained about stalwart soul being level 72 so we just upgraded Unleash to Unleash 2 and deleted Stalwart”

[Bhearil]

Well we do have already The Blackiest Black Night as shown on the trailer sooo xD

[Sazuzaki]

Well we do have already The Blackiest Black Night as shown on the trailer sooo xD

I mean, I don't think anyone was really asking for another TBN. It's a cool addition but I and many many other would rather them focus on the other glaring issues.

[Bhearil]

I mean, I don't think anyone was really asking for another TBN. It's a cool addition but I and many many other would rather them focus on the other glaring issues.

I know, TBN is by far the best tank short defensive CD (and even a decent competitor to bigger ones), but is also the "curse" that makes the job look fine "because has TBN" despite behind all shiny animations its a Warrior Lite with an horrible Living Dead aka "Bring Benediction or waste tons of healing to back them up or the DRK kill themselves"

DRK outside a new defense skill, gets upgrades to long cd skills(Unless Salted Earth Simulacrum have lowered cds) which makes the gameplay virtually the same as before, which is not inherently bad, but at least make gameplay more dinamic and fun instead of having to spam Souleater combo 80% of the time with some OGCD sprinkled here and there

[Tint]

I find it very interesting that everything that deviates from the "popular" opinion is called insanity. There are players with legitimate concerns over how this job was and will be designed in the near future. Just because there are people that enjoy 5.0 DRK doesn't mean it goes for everyone.

The insanity is the very loud minority which tries to ruin the job for the people who actually like to play it. Change this, change that, DRK rework there, here are my ideas for some new skills for DRK...

We had 3.0 DRK and people complained and they changed it. The people who complained likely never picked up DRK after the change and the people who liked 3.0 DRK were... not happy.

So we had 4.0 DRK and a new generation picked up the job and liked it. But the old 3.0 generation complained so hard that they changed the job again. The people who liked 4.0 DRK were not happy. And guess what? The people from 3.0 were not happy either.

So now we have 5.0 DRK and a new generation picked up the job and likes it. And the forum is full of people who cry "REWORK!"
All what will happen is that they will ruin the job again for the people who like the current design.


They really should stop with all the reworks and design the job for people who actually like to play it - which are a lot, I see many DRKs in the game.

[Axxion]

The insanity is the very loud minority which tries to ruin the job for the people who actually like to play it. Change this, change that, DRK rework there, here are my ideas for some new skills for DRK...

We had 3.0 DRK and people complained and they changed it. The people who complained likely never picked up DRK after the change and the people who liked 3.0 DRK were... not happy.

So we had 4.0 DRK and a new generation picked up the job and liked it. But the old 3.0 generation complained so hard that they changed the job again. The people who liked 4.0 DRK were not happy. And guess what? The people from 3.0 were not happy either.

So now we have 5.0 DRK and a new generation picked up the job and likes it. And the forum is full of people who cry "REWORK!"
All what will happen is that they will ruin the job again for the people who like the current design.


They really should stop with all the reworks and design the job for people who actually like to play it - which are a lot, I see many DRKs in the game.

Its funny you mentioned that. I remember when stormblood came out, many people picked it up in it because it was "easier" and they started to main it afterwards. Truth be told i never understood on how it was easier at the time.