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    Aiscence Amano
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    The good thing about cardia is that the regen potency is better than other regens or the fairy (and more controllable than this one) ... if it's on someone. And we all know that we'll get so many sage not using cardia, the same way people dont partner as DNC.

    The fairy at least do the passive regen, even if you are just an "only physick healer", which, if you are an only diagnosis healer ... you dont even have.
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    One thing I noticed in the LL after looking at it again was that it looks like the purple pip was received after the tank got hit with an ability while shielded. By the looks of it, Sage gets rewarded with a DPS ability for successfully shielding damage.
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    It's a reward with a very high cost. I'm trying to imagine when if ever I hardcast an adlo or a succor due to the fact that shielding is so unnecessary currently in most cases. The fact that toxicon is just an instant cast dosis potency wise (on a single target) means you're essentially giving up 330 potency of damage plus 170 potency subtracted from your actual heal due to how cardia works.

    Unless they add more than just the one skill we know of to the adders bite gauge, then its likely to be a very seldom used thing. Even in a dungeon your spam aoe ability is 170 potency to all and toxicon gets halved beyond the first. It would be better attack wise to just mindlessly mash dyscrasia (and keep the cardia regen going) rather than use that gcd shield followed by toxicon. All of this is assuming an ogcd shield doesn't exist for sage that would provide a bite stack. If one does that could change things and allow for weaving every now and then but currently seems very meh overall. Hurry up embargo I need more infooooooooo xD.
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    Kael Yoshim
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    It's a reward with a very high cost. I'm trying to imagine when if ever I hardcast an adlo or a succor due to the fact that shielding is so unnecessary currently in most cases. The fact that toxicon is just an instant cast dosis potency wise (on a single target) means you're essentially giving up 330 potency of damage plus 170 potency subtracted from your actual heal due to how cardia works.

    Unless they add more than just the one skill we know of to the adders bite gauge, then its likely to be a very seldom used thing. Even in a dungeon your spam aoe ability is 170 potency to all and toxicon gets halved beyond the first. It would be better attack wise to just mindlessly mash dyscrasia (and keep the cardia regen going) rather than use that gcd shield followed by toxicon. All of this is assuming an ogcd shield doesn't exist for sage that would provide a bite stack. If one does that could change things and allow for weaving every now and then but currently seems very meh overall. Hurry up embargo I need more infooooooooo xD.
    Sage has oGCD shield. They have the cubic barrier on 120sec cd. And after using the barrier they gain 5 stacks of something.

    It looks that the AoE version of the Cubic Barrier overwrites the stacks and the effect of the ST barrier. There was also another ability that looked like a self-buff for 30s on 90s cd. Probably healing-related. The 5 stacks buff seems to get absorbed as HP when the timer runs out.
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    Hoatu Hotus
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    What makes me laugh is Zenos RPR LB3 couldn’t break a 200 potency shield.
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    Cora Eudestand
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToodlesElNoodles View Post
    What makes me laugh is Zenos RPR LB3 couldn’t break a 200 potency shield.
    That's certainly how it feels using a melee LB honestly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boizinho View Post
    That's certainly how it feels using a melee LB honestly.
    Melee LB3 in Savage is actually something like 1/4 Crit Misery. I was surprised when I saw the numbers.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roeshel View Post
    It looks that the AoE version of the Cubic Barrier overwrites the stacks and the effect of the ST barrier. There was also another ability that looked like a self-buff for 30s on 90s cd. Probably healing-related. The 5 stacks buff seems to get absorbed as HP when the timer runs out.
    The stacks apparently trigger either when you use an offensive action or when they time out (In which case the healing from every remaining stack gets applied simultaneously).

    So I assume you'll seldom ever have to actually stop DPSing between that and its other OGCD heals.
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aiscence View Post
    The good thing about cardia is that the regen potency is better than other regens or the fairy (and more controllable than this one) ... if it's on someone. And we all know that we'll get so many sage not using cardia, the same way people dont partner as DNC.

    The fairy at least do the passive regen, even if you are just an "only physick healer", which, if you are an only diagnosis healer ... you dont even have.
    That's on those terrible healers to fix, not on the devs to "fix" job mechanics out of the game.

    I'm not gonna be shocked if they "fix" any and all complexity out of Sage by 7.0 but their constant need to design a lot of the game around the absolute lowest common denominator will come back to bite them at some point.
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    Reika Hanehara
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    That's on those terrible healers to fix, not on the devs to "fix" job mechanics out of the game.

    I'm not gonna be shocked if they "fix" any and all complexity out of Sage by 7.0 but their constant need to design a lot of the game around the absolute lowest common denominator will come back to bite them at some point.
    At this stage in the games life not really. The dumbing down, is always carefully financially measured. If 'difficulty' sold as well as brainless, meaningless handouts to make pea brained imbeciles feel good - we'd not be in this predicament. Instead its simply good business. Wait for the MMO veterans to move on, or be pushed out by change - and then market to the queue with the subzero IQ. The likes moving over enmasse now. They thrive on nothing being a challenge so that they can prepare their next tweet displaying their 'achievement' and hoarding likes from fellow specimens. Thats the market at this point. So it would be rather the opposite. Adding any challenge beyond cry babies first MMO would lose them custom. These people can't handle effort, putting it in would lose them money. You aren't wrong long term away from game though. Intelligence is dwindling everywhere in these mediums.
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