TOS Clarification:Third Party Program

[Breakbeat]

How many times must we go through this?

Infinite times. The group of people on the forums tomorrow will never be the same group as today, and one of the new group members will bring with them some anxiety or dislike or confusion over addons. It's literally impossible to eradicate confusion over this stuff.

We can't even do it in the real world when it comes to the shape of our planet. There will always be someone new to Earth who, unfortunately and for whatever reason, just doesn't understand how things really are. It's futile to think we will ever be done explaining reality to other humans.

[Larirawiel]

His issue with the character model mods was primarily due to the nude mods, which can get both Unit III and SE itself in significant legal trouble due to their rating, and the game may even be required to have the rating raised if they become too publicized. So again, if you use them, keep your mouth shut, don't post modded photos on your social media, and you will have no issues.

I guess, the legal trouble is not the reason for not allowing mods. There are plenty other games which are modded to hell with NSFW-things and there was never a legal or a rating issue with that. The point is, with mods you can easily cheat and cheating will make botting way more effective. The bots can skip all enemies and farm the things they want to farm without hostile mobs etc. Such cheating destroys the whole ingame economy in the long run. You could also have some advantages in PvP with modded textures and make "invisible" players visible again etc.

Cheers

[Puremallace]

Yoshi has come straight out and said they are against the ToS and you should not use them. You can use them if you wish at your own risk. Also, hasn't this topic been beaten to absolute death? How many times must we go through this?

Go listen again since you missed his point. If ACT is against TOS then you can also be banned for using a calculator and the combat log. Just do not be a prick.

[Alaray]

If it's not being used to cheat who cares.

Reporting literally anyone borderline suspected of utilizing a third party program is just weird, childish, petty behavior. That's it. There's no further discussion to be had on the point that's worthwhile.

[Caurcas]

Anything that interfaces with the game in a meaningful way or alters files is a no go.

[Reap00]

Go listen again since you missed his point. If ACT is against TOS then you can also be banned for using a calculator and the combat log. Just do not be a prick.

Give me a link where he specifically say YES FOLKS YOU MAY USE ACT TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT. You won't find it because it does not exist.

[redheadturk]

I guess, the legal trouble is not the reason for not allowing mods. There are plenty other games which are modded to hell with NSFW-things and there was never a legal or a rating issue with that. The point is, with mods you can easily cheat and cheating will make botting way more effective. The bots can skip all enemies and farm the things they want to farm without hostile mobs etc. Such cheating destroys the whole ingame economy in the long run. You could also have some advantages in PvP with modded textures and make "invisible" players visible again etc.

Cheers

Most of those games are either whatever the ratings board for games is nc-17. Also, lewd Lalafells can have them running afoul of child pornography laws even if lore wise every Lala character you run into in game is an adult. Yes, bots are an issue/cheating is an issue, but they are not issues for *legal* reasons like the lewd mods might possibly be.

[RitsukoSonoda]

He's specifically mentioned don't mod character models and such, and he's specifically mentioned parsing is just a calculator and calculators are fine.
Obviously harassment and automation software are always going to be wrong.

I think this topic will always continue to rise as people can't separate what he wants to say from what he does say.

Actually I feel its more like this topic is always going to rise and come up simply because certain people out there are always trying to figure out how much they can break or ignore a rule before they get in trouble rather than just do what they should be doing.

[TaleraRistain]

There really isn't any clarification needed. Third party programs are against the ToS. Now, they can only take action on what they can prove is in use. That's where the "Don't ask, don't tell, don't post nude modded screenshots" ideas come into play. They don't have sniffers to see what is in our systems. And they haven't seemed to be consistent about taking action against streamers unless said streamer was being a jerk so they seem to reserve a little judgement on when they do and do not want to act there. But their official stance is that they are against ToS and that strengthens the actions they can take when they do take them.

[Wavaryen]

I don't care about the developers wishes. I'm going to be real here. The TOS is just design to protect them from legal troubles. It is not a rule I have to follow unless they are willing to enforce said rules. On this subject they can't.


I like the developers, but Im not friends with them. This is a business not my friend. So I will respect rules they enforce aka chat rules and not talking about it in game, but if I have ways to improve the game that does not hurt other players, and they can't do anything about it. I am going to do it, and I don't care how they feel about it.


That is how most gamers are, it is nothing to do with respect, at the end of the day it is a video game. Some people take it too serious, or jealous because they are not on pc and can't make the same choices.