TOS Clarification:Third Party Program

[Puremallace]

Yoshi has come straight out and said they are against the ToS and you should not use them. You can use them if you wish at your own risk. Also, hasn't this topic been beaten to absolute death? How many times must we go through this?

Go listen again since you missed his point. If ACT is against TOS then you can also be banned for using a calculator and the combat log. Just do not be a prick.

[Reap00]

Go listen again since you missed his point. If ACT is against TOS then you can also be banned for using a calculator and the combat log. Just do not be a prick.

Give me a link where he specifically say YES FOLKS YOU MAY USE ACT TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT. You won't find it because it does not exist.

[Canadane]

Give me a link where he specifically say YES FOLKS YOU MAY USE ACT TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT. You won't find it because it does not exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_i6mjiGerU

If you haven't learned how to read though yoshidas lines yet, you may wanna watch more live letters and Q&A's.

[NatePride]

Give me a link where he specifically say YES FOLKS YOU MAY USE ACT TO YOUR HEARTS CONTENT. You won't find it because it does not exist.

show me where your point comes from if you are so confident in it.

[Sotaris]

And any 3rd party tool that will automate the game for you is no no. That you using discord/steam overlays, msi afterburner, gshade etc is fine as long you don't harrass anyone not using it.

Using a macro application for example to automate key inputs in the game is technically botting so it's against the rules (ToS).

[Moonlite]

And any 3rd party tool that will automate the game for you is no no. That you using discord/steam overlays, msi afterburner, gshade etc is fine as long you don't harrass anyone not using it.

Using a macro application for example to automate key inputs in the game is technically botting so it's against the rules (ToS).

So way back in 2.0 a bunch of crafters, weren't banned but had a roll back. None of them would admit to cheating. But the way the menus worked and logitech macros you could create a macro that would craft forever for you. It is funny what people will claim is OK. SE never really gave a reason just ToS violation.

[Sotaris]

So way back in 2.0 a bunch of crafters, weren't banned but had a roll back. None of them would admit to cheating. But the way the menus worked and logitech macros you could create a macro that would craft forever for you. It is funny what people will claim is OK. SE never really gave a reason just ToS violation.

I don't recall hearing about these rollbacks I've been invested into crafting since ARR launch but maybe wasn't made as much fuss about it back then.
Guess they changed it or other applications of other HW vendors inject differently cause we might gotten rid of many placard clickers that way.

[redheadturk]

He has also said if you don't talk about it or use it to harass others you are very unlikely to be banned for it. Which pretty much says that the rule was about keeping toxicity out of the game rather than an issue with the tool itself. That toxicity can include things like botting. It's about keeping the quality of the community more than anything else, though.

[Ysida]

He has also said if you don't talk about it or use it to harass others you are very unlikely to be banned for it. Which pretty much says that the rule was about keeping toxicity out of the game rather than an issue with the tool itself. That toxicity can include things like botting. It's about keeping the quality of the community more than anything else, though.

That why i ask for "TOS Clarification:Third Party Program".

I think Yoshida said:
Showing X program on broadcast stream is illegal, sharing screenshots with X log program on it illegal, putting logs with performance data of personal player guess what? illegal.
But we can't just spy on you lol. Be a adult.
If you use it hidden, no data showed, no log upload. Then it's somehow ok. Because there is no evidence.
I really think that FF14 community is really too kind, and we don't want to get someone banned or feel bad.

edited removed bad name

[Sqwall]

You can use them....just don't say anything about it. He never said you can't or shouldn't. If you're in a close knit FC and everyone is ok with openly using 3rd party tools...that's ok. Just be careful if one person in FC might not like your harassment of low DPS shown in a 3rd party tool.

I personally don't use one (PS5), and I'm ok with it. And if I have an FC member saying something to me about my DPS I will mention it to the FC leader, and if they don't drop the issue then that FC isn't for me. And that member will be banned as I will say something.

Again, it's ok....just keep it to yourself, because as soon as you say something to someone, you just broke the terms of service. Which is a ban able offense. Don't be surprised