Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
Complex job still exists in the game.
Black mage is still there and other jobs that feels complete, such as GNB, DRG, SAM, NIN... Those are still in the game and have a nice balance between complexity and accessibility.
A dude with no fingers cleared TEA, everything is clearable by anyone given they have patience.

Do your mental gymnastic as much as you want, there is complexity in the game.
It's not trantrums or crying, it's called concerns. You are crying about players not agreeing with that direction so that everything remains accessible to you. You're rejecting every argument without logic, just going with the "muh game, raider bad "

For myself I played MCH for 2 years, I did everything I could. If there is no evolution, I don't want to play the same job for another two years. I don't wish that feeling to anyone.
Raiders and casuals alike are like "I don't want to play with you anymore." when it comes to the job. Guess what will happen in two years? Casuals will move to the next shiny things.
I couldn't care less either way about the direction jobs are going, complex or easy. I'm neither a casual nor an hardcore raider.

What I see, is that the devs decide what to do with job designs, and they obviously don't do it in a vacuum, they have metrics for that sort of stuff.

Ultimately your opinion on what job feels complete or not is moot, as is mine. Ultimately, the devs will do what the devs will do. I don't think it needs to be proven that they listen to this forum feedback, or we'd be playing a vastly different game.

No amount of thrashing around going in every thread with "I don't like this waaah" will ever change that. It is just petulant.