DRG mitigation action?

[Ryaz]

What do you mean? DRG are the best floor tanks in the game!

[Kahnom]

I knew it that this thread is gonna end up wasting my time and it really did.
Maybe the OP purposely did not provide the reason because it’s very obvious that his reason won’t hold enough weight to win this arguement in the first place.
Asking for migitation as DPS is a troll, everyone knows that.
I kinda expect high quality trolling but OP disappointed me.
Next troll, please.

[Jonnycbad]

DRG: <Wears thicker armor and has a self-heal>

...Not that every job needs to have the same narrow capacity as every other job, so long as there's something duly compensatory. There's more than enough homogenization as is.



Also, it looks like Seigan and Merciful Eyes may already have gotten the axe.

Sigh nobody reads the OP.

Reaper *clap* has *clap* maiming gear *clap*

[Shurrikhan]

Sigh nobody reads the OP.

Reaper *clap* has *clap* maiming gear *clap*

has a self-heal>

...Not that every job needs to have the same narrow capacity as every other job, so long as there's something duly compensatory. There's more than enough homogenization as is.

You *clap* seem to *clap* have missed *clap* a fair bit, yourself.

[Doru_Nintendan]

Answer is simple. Look at Estinien. You think a man like him would've thought "maybe I should cast my mitigation BEFORE jumping into a massive Garlean cannon to save the WoL and Alphinaud?" No, cuz he's stubborn and reckless when it comes to engaging the enemy. Dragoons are well known for LITERALLY jumping into the fray of battle, especially against DRAGONS, who probably would just be able to tear though most armor with ease.

If that doesn't help you, then consider this. BLM has the same Casting gear as SMN and RDM, yet they don't have a resurrection spell like the others. Why is that? Because IT GOES AGAINST WHAT BLACK MAGES ARE KNOWN FOR, and homogenizes it, which people hate a lot. Dragoon having a mitigation goes against what Dragoons are known for, and it would homogenize the melee DPS jobs further, which would make people think less of them.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Yes.. more homogenisation.. just what we need. Screw any differences between jobs. DRG gets so much love from devs as it is. Mitigation is not needed at all.

[Jonnycbad]

Answer is simple. Look at Estinien. You think a man like him would've thought "maybe I should cast my mitigation BEFORE jumping into a massive Garlean cannon to save the WoL and Alphinaud?" No, cuz he's stubborn and reckless when it comes to engaging the enemy. Dragoons are well known for LITERALLY jumping into the fray of battle, especially against DRAGONS, who probably would just be able to tear though most armor with ease.

If that doesn't help you, then consider this. BLM has the same Casting gear as SMN and RDM, yet they don't have a resurrection spell like the others. Why is that? Because IT GOES AGAINST WHAT BLACK MAGES ARE KNOWN FOR, and homogenizes it, which people hate a lot. Dragoon having a mitigation goes against what Dragoons are known for, and it would homogenize the melee DPS jobs further, which would make people think less of them.

Nothing you say makes any sense because DRG had Keen Flurry
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Keen_Flurry

[Shurrikhan]

Nothing you say makes any sense because DRG had Keen Flurry
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Keen_Flurry

Technically, Lancer did, as a holdover from when Lancer was a makeshift tank alongside Gladiator (snap-/counter-/skill-block-tank), Marauder (high threat, high passive-eHP tank), and sometimes Pugilist.

[Doru_Nintendan]

Nothing you say makes any sense because DRG had Keen Flurry
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Keen_Flurry

And they got rid of it, right? I wasn't even aware that LNC had a mitigation ability at all, until you mentioned it. If they removed it, there's probably a reason for it.

But that doesn't matter, because you still have yet to give a legitimate reason as to why DRG "NEEDS" a mitigation. You say it's because "REAPER HAS MAIMING GEAR AND A MITIGATION, SO DRAGOON SHOULD GET ONE TOO", but again, that would be homogenization. You're asking SE to take away what small class identify we have, all for a tool that ain't really gonna be used as often as you think it would, nor for the reason you think it should be used for. RoE is just another way for MNKs to use positionals easier, Third Eye is used for the combo skill for more DPS for SAM, and to my knowledge and DF/PF experience, NIN barely use Shade Shift at all.

At this point, it seems like you are either trolling waaaaay too hard, or you have the most ridiculous sense of OCD over one skill type. DRG don't get mitigation, who cares in the end? If it bothers you that much, play a different Melee DPS job entirely, or maybe talk to DRG mains and see why they play the job, even without mitigation.

[ssunny2008]

Yes.. more homogenisation.. just what we need. Screw any differences between jobs. DRG gets so much love from devs as it is. Mitigation is not needed at all.

Seriously it wouldn´t matter in any way. This is not a real PvP game, leveling phase is lame and raids are so built that everyone gets pretty much the same damage, just with different math in the background.

As long as raids aren´t build with different mechanics or multiple bosses, where DPS classes have to tank / kite something or so, noone of them needs any medigation tools, different HP / armor or magical defense. It doesn´t look like homogenisation on the classes, but it´s made by the raid-math anyway...