On The Truncation of HQ Items

[Zaene]

I'm feeling some kind of way about the fact that gatherers won't be able to collect HQ items. Is anyone else feeling the same way?

I understand that for the ease of the future, they've done this. Additionally, I want to believe the developers will be able to maintain the same level of difficulty with gathering/crafting, but I'm not totally convinced.

As someone who has played Final Fantasy MMOs since 11, I understand that even in 11 you couldn't gather HQ items and the creation of HQ anything was entirely under the skill(or luck) of crafters.

How do you think the developers will continue forward?

[Rowde]

I don't think it's going to have a major impact on crafting tbh... especially since intermediary steps can still be crafted HQ. NQ ores -> HQ ingots for example.

Gathering... in theory, for personal use will go much faster.

It will be interesting to see how this effects the in game economy though.

[Sotaris]

I don't think it's going to have a major impact on crafting tbh... especially since intermediary steps can still be crafted HQ. NQ ores -> HQ ingots for example.

Gathering... in theory, for personal use will go much faster.

It will be interesting to see how this effects the in game economy though.

This. I'm not sure how I feel about it yet but this is the reasonable line of thinking with the sprinkle of information we've been given.
I'm curious how much of a impact it will be on crafting (with starting quality etc) but I hope they go in more deph in next LL in november.

[Absurdity]

I'm feeling some kind of way about the fact that gatherers won't be able to collect HQ items. Is anyone else feeling the same way?

I understand that for the ease of the future, they've done this. Additionally, I want to believe the developers will be able to maintain the same level of difficulty with gathering/crafting, but I'm not totally convinced.

As someone who has played Final Fantasy MMOs since 11, I understand that even in 11 you couldn't gather HQ items and the creation of HQ anything was entirely under the skill(or luck) of crafters.

How do you think the developers will continue forward?

You didn't really need HQ materials to craft anything since the start of Shadowbringers, so not much will change. The difficulty with crafting and gathering was never really about the execution of your skills, the difficulty came from the initial time investment to level all of them to max since you needed the cross class skills and the initial gil investment to gear all of them up.

[RitsukoSonoda]

But I like to shatter HQ ingredients. They make prettier explosions... >.>

[Fawkes]

I usually got HQ mats for the higher end crafts. The low durability middle crafts of most endgame stuff were always the hardest step before I maxed out my gear/melds, so hopefully they'll tune things differently now.

[Zaene]

I suppose I can see things going the route of current Diadem.

You can't gather HQ items there(except for FSH). You can only gather rare things(in case of special weather) and buffs to gathering for MIN and BTN buff amount of gather chances and number of items per gathering attempt.

I guess that's the route they want to go. I wonder if they'll be dovetailing normal and expert recipes for some degree of challenge for crafters then..

[Limecat]

I'm guessing they're going to fiddle with the formulas, so it doesn't really matter. The one big area where I did specifically want HQ mats is the raw stuff for endgame crafts, because of intermediate mats only having ~35 durability. Hell, if they'd just bump that up to 60 it wouldn't matter at all. One side effect I suppose though, you won't have the wiggle room on a finished product synth by using HQ gathered junk to supplement lazily slapped-out NQ intermediates.

[Rowde]

I would not be opposed to Expert crafting being the new end game system tbh...
they've made crafting far too easy for 2 expansions now.

So it'd be kind of neat if they made HQ crafted somewhat meaningful again.

[ItMe]

It'll def make fishing less of a pain that's for sure.