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  1. #1
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    ZeepZoop's Avatar
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    Naalu Nym'ra
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    Astrologian Lv 80

    MUCH needed Blacklist rework

    [EDITED]

    I've made a more messy thread before, but I decided to do one a bit more professionally now.
    This issue has dire need to be adressed and worked on:
    The blacklist system is useless, and does not protect players.

    I want to start with pointing out the complicity of blacklisting someone.
    You can't blacklist from the search menu.
    You can't blacklist from the friendslist menu.
    You can't blacklist from the linkshell menu.
    You can't blacklist from the free company menu.
    You can't blacklist someone in a duty, only after.
    You can't blacklist STANDING NEXT TO a player and right-click targeting them. (The only way is to use "/blist add <t>" and not alot of people know.)
    EDIT: Yes, really, the normal "/blist add Player Name" does not work. It will give an error message saying the player character doesn't exist.

    The only way to add them to your blacklist is:
    By sending them a tell message.
    If you shared a duty together over the social tab, wich might not always be the case.
    Searching their name up constantly (aka you are now becoming the stalker) catching them online and finding them in the ingame world and having to target them ... amazing.

    And incase the issue was more personal, not just a random unpleasant player encounter, you might have an even bigger problem:
    Removing someone from your friendslist, and then blacklisting them, does NOT remove you from theirs.
    They can still see whenever you are online. They can see if you are in a queue, in an instance, on what map you are, what your free company is ... and even if you name changed.
    I have paid real money for a name change and a race change, a desperate try to escape my harasser, but it's of no use since the system is so inherently flawed.
    As long as they have me on their friendslist, I will forever be trackable by the person I want to escape from.

    There is more to harassment than chats, and people making an MMO should know that (I have already been virtually chased around Limsa Lominsa).
    I have never encountered any platform in a game or on a social media, where a delete/blacklist would be so completely useless.
    And yes, I did write 2 support tickets and even mailed the support directly, they are unable to do anything.

    If I go as far as to blacklist someone, I expect complete cut off from both sides, and I dare to say it can't be that hard to fix this.
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    Last edited by ZeepZoop; 09-22-2021 at 11:10 AM.

  2. 09-20-2021 11:27 AM

  3. #2
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    Shironeko_Narunyan's Avatar
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    You shouldn't be forced to spend money on something like a server transfer to get rid of stalkers.
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    Cap Striker
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    Agreed! Are you on console or pc? if the latter, you can probably do something.
    Why would the platform matter in any way for anything regarding this topic?
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotaname1 View Post
    Why would the platform matter in any way for anything regarding this topic?
    IIRC there is a mod that lets you completely hide a person. OP's stalker would have no way of interacting with them.
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    Lulu Wildspirit
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    Shiva
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    Monk Lv 67
    I'd love to hear every possible way a muted player can now harass you.
    Because there's a solution to everything.

    The game has "fading", if the devs just wanted to, they could implement a way to "erase" players on your blacklist. If they spam mounts and ride donuts around you, you could just delete them visually, like a quest npc when they walk away and fade off.

    If someone is stealing your quest mob kills, players should be allowed to create temporary custom leves. Again, the mechanical platform exists. Players create their own "someone stealing my kills/harassing me" leve with a 10-20 min duration, during which nobody else but their party members can attack/tag monsters.

    So now he can't talk to you.
    His emotes are blocked.
    His bard music turned off.
    His mount and char model turned invisible if you so please.
    He can't even kill monsters around you.
    The list is smarter and won't let you in the same dungeon/roulette.

    Anything else I missed?
    So this is basically everything the devs need to do.
    (0)
    Well if this game didn't have so much to improve on, I wouldn't have to suggest this much, would I...?

  7. #6
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Elemenz View Post
    I'd love to hear every possible way a muted player can now harass you.
    Because there's a solution to everything.

    The game has "fading", if the devs just wanted to, they could implement a way to "erase" players on your blacklist. If they spam mounts and ride donuts around you, you could just delete them visually, like a quest npc when they walk away and fade off.

    If someone is stealing your quest mob kills, players should be allowed to create temporary custom leves. Again, the mechanical platform exists. Players create their own "someone stealing my kills/harassing me" leve with a 10-20 min duration, during which nobody else but their party members can attack/tag monsters.

    So now he can't talk to you.
    His emotes are blocked.
    His bard music turned off.
    His mount and char model turned invisible if you so please.
    He can't even kill monsters around you.
    The list is smarter and won't let you in the same dungeon/roulette.

    Anything else I missed?
    So this is basically everything the devs need to do.
    Dont let them enter your house even if it is open and hide the comments you can write in the book of houses of other people or FCs.
    Edit: actually make the erasing work both ways so the stalker has less knowledge.
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    Last edited by Saraide; 09-20-2021 at 07:28 PM.

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  10. #7
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    Naalu Nym'ra
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    Lich
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Elemenz View Post
    I'd love to hear every possible way a muted player can now harass you.
    Because there's a solution to everything.
    Stalking and staying in the same map and area as me, walking up to me and emoting (laughs can still be heard), following around, asking their friends to message me, all those kind of things. Sure i tried to ignore it, but its bothersome nonetheless. And this harasser has already done mental damage to me, thus the block.
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    Naalu Nym'ra
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    IIRC there is a mod that lets you completely hide a person. OP's stalker would have no way of interacting with them.
    You mean a mod that hides me from them? Unsure how that could possibly work, but im interested nonetheless...
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  12. #9
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeepZoop View Post
    You mean a mod that hides me from them? Unsure how that could possibly work, but im interested nonetheless...
    The other way around, the mod hides them entirely from your view.
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    Palavo Zaiche
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    Gladiator Lv 24
    Report for harassment? It will be insta ban. If he indeed harassed you, that is. Ffxiv gms are really ban trigger happy.
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