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    NIN: New Jin+Chi+Ten/ Chi+Jin+Ten Ninjutsu?

    I noticed in the Job Actions trailer that Huton could be activated without doing a Mudra combination. Could this perhaps mean we are getting a new Ninjutsu to replace it?
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    Looks to me like ninjas are now getting an elemental gap-closer. I think the developers are simply making the mudras elemental, and giving us the ability to elementally charge our oGCD's. Could be wrong though.

    Another possibility is that they're attaching multiple abilities to every element.
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    There appears to be a standalone ability that applies Huton, and if we were to guess, a Huton related action enabled by Bunshin. (though it may be reduced from 5 hits to 4 and moved to 60 seconds).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flynn89 View Post
    Looks to me like ninjas are now getting an elemental gap-closer. I think the developers are simply making the mudras elemental, and giving us the ability to elementally charge our oGCD's. Could be wrong though.

    Another possibility is that they're attaching multiple abilities to every element.
    From the job notes after the trailer ("Actions linked to Raiton, Doton and Huton will be added"), it seems more like Raiton has a follow up attack/combo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    There appears to be a standalone ability that applies Huton, and if we were to guess, a Huton related action enabled by Bunshin. (though it may be reduced from 5 hits to 4 and moved to 60 seconds).
    Based on the job notes, that's what it looks like to me as well. They noted "An Action making it easier to apply Huton will be added". Additionally, they stated that there will be another Action linked to Huton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    From the job notes after the trailer ("Actions linked to Raiton, Doton and Huton will be added"), it seems more like Raiton has a follow up attack/combo.
    CHIDORI!

    I'm sorry, what were we talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Based on the job notes, that's what it looks like to me as well. They noted "An Action making it easier to apply Huton will be added". Additionally, they stated that there will be another Action linked to Huton.
    I'm ready to see Katon turn our AoE into flaming daggers. xD That, or see Doton imbuing our weaponskills. That's a nice direction for Ninja.
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    Ninjutsu seems like it might be getting a pretty massive overhaul when it comes to effects.

    If you can apply Huton with the press of a button, then what is the benefit of doing the three action version?

    Also I noticed there were several ninjutsu (and other skills) missing from the job action trailer. Like no suiton (and no trick attack) no hyoton, no hyosho ranryu, no gokka mekkyaku... and also no meisui since no suiton in the trailer.

    Should also mention I never saw fire frog or bhavakakkra being used... so wonder what ninki will be used on now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Ninjutsu seems like it might be getting a pretty massive overhaul when it comes to effects.

    If you can apply Huton with the press of a button, then what is the benefit of doing the three action version?

    Also I noticed there were several ninjutsu (and other skills) missing from the job action trailer. Like no suiton (and no trick attack) no hyoton, no hyosho ranryu, no gokka mekkyaku... and also no meisui since no suiton in the trailer.

    Should also mention I never saw fire frog or bhavakakkra being used... so wonder what ninki will be used on now?
    Yoshi-P played as a NIN when showing off the new Ground Target placement stuff and here is a screencap of his hotbars:



    Looking at the hotbars, you can see Trick Attack (Hotbar 2 Slot 7), Meisui (Hotbar 4 Slot 7), Hellfrog Medium (Hotbar 1 Slot 11), and Bhavacackra (Hotbar 4 Slot 8). Shadow Fang and Assassinate are the big ones that are missing, but they mentioned Shadow Fang was being removed so that's not surprising, while Assassinate was either removed or maybe DWaD turns into Assassinate once used, who knows. Also Bloodbath is missing, but it appears on Reaper's hotbars when Yoshi-P was showing that off.

    I am concerned about the lack of Boiled Eggs though, Yoshi-P needs to stock up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Styrmwyda View Post
    I noticed in the Job Actions trailer that Huton could be activated without doing a Mudra combination. Could this perhaps mean we are getting a new Ninjutsu to replace it?
    Hopefully. Though, I'm not sure what it would be.

    To be honest, I also wouldn't be surprised if they ended up removing Hyoton entirely—replacing it with Suiton, moving Hyossho Ranryu from an enhanced Hyoton to an enhanced Fuma—and making any three-step combo into Doton.

    :: When they first mentioned Huton being made easier to cast, I honestly thought they'd be differentiating the single-cast Ninjutsu so that Ten alone would be Huton, Chi alone would be something new, and Jin alone would be Fuma, or whatnot. Now that we've seen it in action, though, a separate (dynamic?) key for Huton does seem the more likely, as Kabooa pointed out.
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