Polls for future game changes

[Fabbro]

I think something like this would be a huge mistake if they actually implemented it, and would result in the westernification of the game and it would end up being another WoW experience

it is, at its base, a JRPG, and that comes with its own direction and design philosophy. if they add in some kind of voting system, it would likely be aimed at primarily Japanese players of the game and the direction its heading in because thats the culture they are more familiar with.

in the end, I doubt we would ever see the implementation of this kind of idea. If you dont like a movie franchise or its direction, dont go see the next movie, its that simple. If you dont like a game direction, unsub or stop playing. there is no difference. there is no player voting, and especially not one based on length of sub. this has got to be one of the dumbest ideas. I mean in whatever country you live in, would you want ONLY the old to vote, or maybe have 2 votes? I mean by your logic they have lived in the country longer so should have a better idea of whats best for the country right?

What? The game is already as western as can be...

FFXI is a WAY, WAY, more Japanese MMO experience for example.
Sekiro is another example of what the pinnacle of modern Japanese gaming is, and so on. Nothing like FFXIV.

This game is slowly turning into a WoW clone more and more and getting more and more westernized every new update. Zero toon actual customization aside from looks (no custom abilities set, feats, talents, skill point distribution, nothing), extremely dumbed down and easy with zero complexity and challenge outside some few areas like extremes, savages and Eureka, etc..

[Lanadra]

Nope.

And for a lengthier answer:

I think this is a horrible idea and I also think the only reason you want weighted votes is because you think the 'hardcore' 'loyal' fans will be the ones who have played the longest and are likeliest to agree with you, you likely also realize that your preferences are likely to be outnumbered and thus seek to remedy it that way. Ergo, you want a weighted voting system that will preferably produce the results you want in as reliable a way as you can think of.

There's nothing fair or representative about it. I trust Yoshi P and his team to deliver, I don't trust you or anyone else to know better than them. Also, just as an amusing note, in an actual fair voting system.. I am pretty sure one of the first things to go would be Ultimates, probably followed by Savage.

Fair voting means every vote counts for exactly one. My grandmother doesn't get an election vote that counts for four just because she's four times my age, that's not how democracy works.

[Lihtleita]

This game is slowly turning into a WoW clone more and more and getting more and more westernized every new update. Zero toon actual customization aside from looks (no custom abilities set, feats, talents, skill point distribution, nothing), extremely dumbed down and easy with zero complexity and challenge outside some few areas like extremes, savages and Eureka, etc..

As someone who played during the time that the game allowed cross class and point allocation.....everyone picked nearly the same thing anyway. if you didnt put all your points into str as a melee you were doing something wrong and needed to spend 10000 company seals to reset your point allocation. This isn;t the freedom of expression you think it was, it was just an extra imaginary step.

also all the jank thats been removed from xiv were ideas borrowed from wow. if anything xiv is an evolution and what wow could be if it stopped harrassing women and turning them into fruit

[StriderShinryu]

Nope.

And for a lengthier answer:

I think this is a horrible idea and I also think the only reason you want weighted votes is because you think the 'hardcore' 'loyal' fans will be the ones who have played the longest and are likeliest to agree with you, you likely also realize that your preferences are likely to be outnumbered and thus seek to remedy it that way. Ergo, you want a weighted voting system that will preferably produce the results you want in as reliable a way as you can think of.

There's nothing fair or representative about it. I trust Yoshi P and his team to deliver, I don't trust you or anyone else to know better than them. Also, just as an amusing note, in an actual fair voting system.. I am pretty sure one of the first things to go would be Ultimates, probably followed by Savage.

Fair voting means every vote counts for exactly one. My grandmother doesn't get an election vote that counts for four just because she's four times my age, that's not how democracy works.

Bingo. Nailed it in one.

Topics like this, and pretty much all of the threads complaining that "the devs just don't listen to the players!" are all written with the explicit or implicit assumption that "the players" all actually think along the lines of what the topic creator themselves wants. And, yes, it's often the more "hardcore" "old school" players that have that perspective. There's also a reality that if there was an optional vote of some kind, it's pretty likely that the more "hardcore" players are the ones who would respond so pretty much any vote conducted in this manner would be at least biased in that direction.

Let's be real, if the devs really did put out a vote that every single player of the game absolutely had to answer in a fair manner, the more casual players would carry simply because there are vastly, vastly more of them.

[SherlottaEryut]

Some MMOs already implement this feature, Runescape (for example) has ingame poll booths where active players can voto on game changes, regarding to combat, PVP, etc., specially, no major change to game mechanics are ever made unless there is at least ~70% approval among voting players.

Oldschool RuneScape does this exceptionally well, but only because they don’t want another situation to happen where they lose even more players, like what happened when RS3, Evolution Of Combat and micro transactions launched. Runescape went from WoW’s rival to basically being a ‘forgotten’ MMO with no where near as many players as it used to have.

OSRS has become way too dependant on the poll and they should have learned ages ago they can take the training wheels off and regain control on their game - I have seen OSRS come up with fantastic ideas that should have been put in the game but because of the 70% upvote requirement, they never saw the light of day. The game should be in the developers hands unless they’re in a dire situation and require the feedback of the community.

I don’t think Final Fantasy has a reason to implement the poll idea because they seem to do a good job listening to the community & putting in content we all love. If by chance SE were losing their magic touch and was chasing players away, I’d think this idea would be fantastic and could be a quick fix to the game but I’d never have it as a permanent thing.