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    Polls for future game changes

    Some MMOs already implement this feature, Runescape (for example) has ingame poll booths where active players can voto on game changes, regarding to combat, PVP, etc., specially, no major change to game mechanics are ever made unless there is at least ~70% approval among voting players.

    Would be nice if every MMO had this, also, make players voto count more according to how old their subscrition in the game is, so for say, every ~6months of subscription time, your voto counts as one vote extra, that way someone subscribed in the game three years ago would have a vote that counts for 6, and someone that has a one year subscription would have a vote that counts for 2 and so on. People that have subscriptions from way back into 1.0 would have the most impact when voting.

    That way the game can keep their loyal fanbase that will actually play the game for years on from now happy and give a fair voting for everyone.

    I see it as a way to be much more in touch with the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbro View Post
    make players voto count more according to how old their subscrition in the game is, so for say, every ~6months of subscription time, your voto counts as one vote extra, that way someone subscribed in the game three years ago would have a vote that counts for 6, and someone that has a one year subscription would have a vote that counts for 2 and so on.

    give a fair voting for everyone.
    How exactly is it "fair" voting, if not all the votes are equal?
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    They already do listen and there is impact based on community feedback.

    They are not, and should not however, listen to Everything the community says.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KatieConnr View Post
    How exactly is it "fair" voting, if not all the votes are equal?
    Exactly fair because of that, people that play for a longer time deserve more weight, and are probably a minority, so they need some extra voting weight to balance out against people whom will probably only ever play the game for a few months ~ one year and give it up. People whom already play the game for a longer time since launch are probably the same ones that are going to keep the game alive in the long term, so it makes sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They already do listen and there is impact based on community feedback.

    They are not, and should not however, listen to Everything the community says.
    For example, I don't know anyone whom liked the way they changed the PvP, and that's just one example. I could talk about many others (changes to Dark Knight, streamlining and dumbing down mechanics that had potential such as cross classing and shared class abilities... list goes on) that clearly show how they simply don't ever care to go back about changes most of the active players dislike. Having a voting system like other MMOs have, and Runescape does it very well, would really ensure the community agrees with futures changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbro View Post
    For example, I don't know anyone whom liked the way they changed the PvP, and that's just one example. I could talk about many others (changes to Dark Knight, streamlining and dumbing down mechanics that had potential such as cross classing and shared class abilities... list goes on) that clearly show how they simply don't ever care to go back about changes most of the active players dislike. Having a voting system like other MMOs have, and Runescape does it very well, would really ensure the community agrees with futures changes.
    I mean.... I have my gripes with the game I feel its a bit too easy sometimes and I'd like the a graphics update that would also fix all the technical limitations with the glams and other bits but they are reworking PVP because they know people don't like it, they apologized for 1.0, They do job adjustments and reworks based on complaints, like the SMN changes that are coming. They are upgrading the servers, working on a stat squish because the game is at its limits, developing the expansion with the largest MSQ yet, they're holding a weapon design contest which allows you to tell them what weapons you want to see in game... they have brought some collaborations back because players wanted them (although imo they shoulda made new ones so we get new content and sell past ones in the mog station), They are adding Male viera and Fem Hroth based on complaints.

    They're not sitting idle. And this community has a huge divide between casuals and more hard core folk so the "community" is not exactly in unison about most things. So if there were votes in fact, you'd see this game getting even less complicated and more simplified rather than difficult, because the truth is the casuals outnumber the hardcore. A lot of people want to see ultimates gone in favor of using those resources for casual content more people would enjoy but I think they know they need hard challenges for fans of raiding, it also brings a lot of views on streams and its free advertising for the game.

    It's a hard balance to keep...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They already do listen and there is impact based on community feedback.

    They are not, and should not however, listen to Everything the community says.

    This is key. Especially if they listen only to those vocal minorities here on forums and other social media plattforms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fabbro View Post
    For example, I don't know anyone whom liked the way they changed the PvP, and that's just one example. I could talk about many others (changes to Dark Knight, streamlining and dumbing down mechanics that had potential such as cross classing and shared class abilities... list goes on) that clearly show how they simply don't ever care to go back about changes most of the active players dislike. Having a voting system like other MMOs have, and Runescape does it very well, would really ensure the community agrees with futures changes.
    Most people disliked the cross class system, there is only a minority who enjoyed it. That's... why it was removed....
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    fairly bad idea. we dont play in a democracy. this is their game. if they make a change you dislike, the option you have is to unsub.

    (as well, I actually dont know anyone who pvps...so... your example doesnt seem to go very far lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    fairly bad idea. we dont play in a democracy. this is their game. if they make a change you dislike, the option you have is to unsub.

    (as well, I actually dont know anyone who pvps...so... your example doesnt seem to go very far lol)
    Somthing about this comment just doesnt resonate with me...I can’t explain it
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