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    Teleport fee changes - setting the record straight

    I'm sorry for being that person who posts another thread on something we already have a thread on, but neither of the existing ones actually provide the information in the opening post and people seem to be misunderstanding what the changes actually involve.

    For reference, this is the slide that was shown in the live letter presentation.



    The most important thing to note is that the new 1000+ gil fees are only for extremely long distances. This is the cost from La Noscea (in the far west of the Three Continents) to Othard (in the far east). Local costs are not increasing this much.

    The other big thing is that teleports to Norvrandt are noticably cheaper.

    Also, this is likely to be the price list without the 30% reduction that most people will have through their FC.

    For comparison, I have copied out the full list of current and future prices for the destinations shown in the video.

    Travelling from Costa del Sol in eastern La Noscea to:

    LA NOSCEA

    Limsa Lominsa: 198 > 215 (+17)
    Summerford: 165 > 186 (+21)
    Moraby Drydocks: 153 > 187 (+34)
    Costa del Sol: 100 > 100 (no change)
    Wineport: 144 > 100 (-44)
    Swiftperch: 210 > 216 (+6)
    Aleport: 240 > 216 (-24)
    Bronze Lake: 167 > 166 (-1)
    Camp Overlook: 206 > 180 (-26)
    Wolves' Den: 225 > 291 (+66)

    THE BLACK SHROUD

    Gridania: 520 > 503 (-17)
    Bentbranch: 490 > 489 (-1)
    Hawthorne: 564 > 569 (+4)
    Quarrymill: 492 > 437 (-55)
    Camp Tranquil: 456 > 437 (-19)
    Fallgourd Float: 452 > 427 (-25)

    THANALAN

    Ul'dah: 355 > 416 (+61)

    HINGASHI

    Kugane: 999 > 1442 (+443)

    * Fun fact: The current fee from Limsa to Ala Mhigo just reaches the 999 cap (the Peaks is in the 900s) so that's about 900 distance-fee plus the 100 flat teleport fee. Kugane is 4.5 times as far from Limsa, so under the current system it would cost over 4000 gil to travel to Kugane if the price was not capped. 1400 gil is cheap by comparison.

    OTHARD:

    Tamamizu: 999 > 1394 (+395)
    Onokoro: 999 > 1394 (+395)
    Namai: 999 > 1299 (+300)
    House of the Fierce: 999 > 1299 (+300)
    Reunion: 999 > 1291 (+292)
    The Dawn Throne: 999 > 1291 (+292)
    Dhoro Iloh: 999 > 1291 (+292)
    The Doman Enclave: 999 > 1276 (+277)

    NORVRANDT

    The Crystarium: 999 > 498 (-501)
    Eulmore: 999 > 744 (-255)
    Fort Jobb: 999 > 558 (-441)
    The Ostall Imperative: 999 > 558 (-441)
    Stilltide: 999 > 694 (-305)
    Wright: 999 > 694 (-305)
    Tomra: 999 > 694 (-305)
    Mord Souq: 999 > 636 (-363)
    The new pricing logic is somewhat obtuse and not simply based on distance any more, but overall there is only a small effect on short-distance travel so there shouldn't be too much impact on a new player.

    To give a ballpark figure for travel in Endwalker, Sharlayan is about 1.5x the distance to Gridania or 2x the distance to Ul'dah (but again, the prices for those seem inconsistent), and Thavnair is about halfway to Hingashi. And the moon is.... a very long way.

    Of course, for all we know these could be filler numbers and need to be adjusted further. The warning is right there on the screenshot: development screenshots are subject to change.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 09-20-2021 at 02:34 AM.

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    Didn't see these numbers posted in the two loud threads about this subject from what I saw personally. Just a lot of 'you're wronging the players making them broke' and stuff like that.

    That's not that big of an increase, and it doesn't really change much at all early game. FCs will probably use the teleport action more often. By the time gil prices get near 999 people would generally be in 3.X+ content and enough to cover teleport prices is beyond easy to get
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    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

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    Yeah this isn't bad. Inflation due to no proper money sinks is worse
    (and yeah those mounts and housing aren't sinks, they're dumps. Sinks don't have an end.)
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    Seeing the actual changes like this does indeed help with understanding them much better. I'm laughing my ass off at the fact that Crystarium is gonna be far more cheap to warp to than Kugane, and probably will be the same price as warping to Mor Dhona, or very close in price, but it's a nice thing still. Plus, saving some more gil on being able to warp to any aetheryte in the same zone, like Fort Jobb and Ostall Imperative, is definitely q change I can approve of.
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    What's up with the Norvrandt prices though?

    also laughs in free teleport to kugane
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    I said it in other thread but this isn't going to make people broke, not even brand new players to the game.
    It's not going to affect many if any with such minor change to the teleport fee.

    If you feel it such a problem, may I suggest join a FC for the "discount teleport fee" buff
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    Quote Originally Posted by HollowedDoll View Post
    What's up with the Norvrandt prices though?

    also laughs in free teleport to kugane
    They said Norvrandt is technically connected to the Crystal Tower, so take the cost it would take to teleport to the Crystal Tower and that will be the Crystarium price. Then, adjust from there.
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    thank you Iscah, now maybe the people screaming about it can take their heads out of their collective.... dark regions... and calm down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    They said Norvrandt is technically connected to the Crystal Tower, so take the cost it would take to teleport to the Crystal Tower and that will be the Crystarium price. Then, adjust from there.
    Suppose that does make sense considering you can directly "walk" from there, but can't you get a boat to Kugane from Limsa too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doru_Nintendan View Post
    Seeing the actual changes like this does indeed help with understanding them much better. I'm laughing my ass off at the fact that Crystarium is gonna be far more cheap to warp to than Kugane, and probably will be the same price as warping to Mor Dhona, or very close in price, but it's a nice thing still. Plus, saving some more gil on being able to warp to any aetheryte in the same zone, like Fort Jobb and Ostall Imperative, is definitely q change I can approve of.
    The crystarium likes you more than kugane does. You get a discount.
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