An interesting contrast between player communities

[thegreatonemal]

The FFXIV Subreddit is infamous for excessive downvoting for a reason.

Reddit is basically trash opinions incarnate lets not pretend like it's this great hub of intellectuals and that complete garbage and blatant misinformation doesn't get frequently upvoted.
People always shit on Twitter but in all honesty Reddit is no better and in some ways I'd actually say that it's worse too.

No one claimed it was but not seeing a thread on the gil cap being removed because it got downvoted because it's a stupid hill to die on is only a positive thing.

[Breakbeat]

Coming out of the live letter, Reddit seems to be generally very hype while these forums generally seem to be drowning in misery (and very concerned about teleportation fees).

That's a bit hyperbolic, yeah? I see exactly one thread on 'teleportation fee complaints'; the only other thread on port fees is actually explaining the fees to get past the hyperbole. As for this place 'drowning in misery,' you have got to be looking at different forums .. this place isn't drowning in misery at all.

You sure you didn't accidentally open up WoW General Discussion? That's misery.

This place is positively peachy compared to forums that are truly 'drowning in misery'.

[reivaxe]

The OF are seen as "the place you go to let the devs know what you think" (Even though the devs have cited taking feedback from reddit/ twitter and so on. Really no reason to think they gaf about the OF any more than anything else) so the OF seem to be the place most people go to whine and complain with next to zero moderation. That's caused the culture on the OF to be non-stop "Me Me Me, what I want". Add in the general toxic positivity of the FF14 fandom in some regards AND the fact that you can only "like" things but not "dislike", and you have a collection of people who just scream about wanting XYZ without having to critically think about their discussions.

Reddit is its own community with its own problems linked to FF14's toxic positivity, but at the very least that subreddit can band together to boot topics they're tired of hearing about. Here, you can't stop some troll from making troll threads and everyone seems encouraged/ emboldened to just B&M about every aspect of the game with.

I'd found that large communities for games like this that are widely beloved by the playerbase can tend to be positive, as ... people generally like coming together to talk about ish they like when they're having fun. That's what I see on 4chan and discords at least. I think 4chan accepts the game for what it is the most of any community, the good and bad and ugly of it. Same with FB groups, the smaller the community, the more likely it seems that people will be honest and accepting about things.

[Conundrum]

Reddit is full of "Stepford Players". Anyone not happy with EVERYTHING tends to get murdered and their body hidden.

[Cojika]

but at the very least that subreddit can band together to boot topics they're tired of hearing about.

Yeah anything not yet another commission of generic ass cat girls/anime lizards(May or may not be dressed in eastern attire and may or may not have a waterfall in the background, or maybe both) , dumb memes, or unfunny jokes.

[Conundrum]

Not all opinions are valid. A lot of the suggestions that come out of this forum are made by people who clearly haven't played this game don't understand design philosophy in the slightest and are only suggesting things because those concepts were in another MMO that they played and they liked that so it should be here. I.E class specs. On reddit the clearly stupid things get downvoted to hell. Here they get to presist. Which is why you get so many complaint threads here.

I don't even no what to say to this.

Yes all opinions are valid, it doesn't mean they should be followed. Go hang out on reddit if you want to censor "wrong think".

[Rinhi]

That's a bit hyperbolic, yeah? I see exactly one thread on 'teleportation fee complaints'; the only other thread on port fees is actually explaining the fees to get past the hyperbole. As for this place 'drowning in misery,' you have got to be looking at different forums .. this place isn't drowning in misery at all.
This place is positively peachy compared to forums that are truly 'drowning in misery'.

yeah, I question where people see all the supposed misery in the OF
sure, you have some "bad" complaints here and there, but they're super easy to ignore (which quite a few people are seemingly unable to do) but even some of those have valid points and arguments
the only issue I feel the OF has is, aside from TM and friends, is that people are more often than not fishing for likes with their 'funny' dunks on people without wanting to argue, which usually turns the thread into a shitflinging contest more often than not when they could've simply ignored it if they didn't want to argue
reminds me a bit of reddit/twitter in that way, tbh

That's what I see on 4chan and discords at least. I think 4chan accepts the game for what it is the most of any community, the good and bad and ugly of it. Same with FB groups, the smaller the community, the more likely it seems that people will be honest and accepting about things.

4chan is no reddit, but it's far from a small community (way bigger than the OF at least) and I'd love to know what kind of stuff you're on if you think people aren't complaining on the various boards and threads there, way more than the OF does, if they're not posting a sideways looking femra or cat

[reivaxe]

Yeah anything not yet another commission of generic ass cat girls/anime lizards(May or may not be dressed in eastern attire and may or may not have a waterfall in the background, or maybe both) , dumb memes, or unfunny jokes.

I'm not sure what you think this game is, but "generic cat girls/ Anime lizards" and memes are very much a big part of the FF14 community. People coming together to share things they like about the game and have fun with the subject matter in their free time, while also not wanting to hear people screech into the void about every lil thing indefinitely, is perfectly valid.

That subreddit aint prefect by any means (toxic positivity is a curse that leaks into almost every large community for this game), but at least when you go there, you don't have to see troll thread after troll thread about how the devs are lazy bums for having the UI team make Gpose stickers instead of a new ultimate or how the devs are homophobic for XYZ reasons or other such nonsense with zero thought behind it as a means for some mental child to vent.

4chan is no reddit, but it's far from a small community (way bigger than the OF at least) and I'd love to know what kind of stuff you're on if you think people aren't complaining on the various boards and threads there, way more than the OF does, if they're not posting a sideways looking femra or cat

"Small" was referring to FB groups, 4chan is anon which means people can generally just say w/e they want without a care.
And I have no cule wtf you're on about. People there generally don't whine endlessly about the game as they do here.

[Caurcas]

The other 14 subreddit used to be good, but not so much these days. These forums are most okay, at least you can have some kind of back and forth here.

[KayRadley]

That is a good thing. This forum could use some moderation as well.

This, this, a million bloody times this. The forum would be a much better place overall if we had some bloody mods doing their jobs.