Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
This is a horrible thing, I don’t wanna log in to Forums to see it undergo brainwash tactics and only see posts like “Best game ever”

Adding to the devs delusion, are people that afraid of opinions? No game ever has had a 100% satisfactory rate
Your line of thinking is too linear. No one is asking mods to only make sure positive threads exist. The moderation that is asked are for threads that veer off the topic in near or total extremes, threads that get inflammatory rather than being civil, threads that could be merged together, especially if the ops are barely different than one another.

Different opinions are fine but it's clear as day that people not only don't know how to properly argue their opinion but they would also prefer to go to extreme ends just to prove a point. Sensible moderation is needed in those situations to--at the very least--try and get people to discuss opinions better.


Quote Originally Posted by MoofiaBossVal View Post
MMO Champions FFXIV subforum > FFXIV Official Forums = FFXIV threads on 4chan > FFXIV thread on Spacebattles > Gamefaqs FFXIV forum >>>>>>>>> Something Awful threads > r/FFXIV subreddit > Twitter

The good FFXIV communities:

  • MMO Champion has a lot of honest discussion about the game, little discussion of the story.
  • The FFXIV Official Forums has some indepth posts on both gameplay and story, but many times the back and forth discussions tend to not go anywhere much because there is strawmanning and people missing each other's points. There are also some hardcore fanboys/cultists here, though not as many as on other forums.
  • You will find honest discussions of FFXIV in threads on /v/, namely the gameplay (but also sometimes the story). Strangely, the WoW general on /vg/ has more actual discussion of FFXIV than the xiv general. Don't bother going to the XIV thread on /vg/ as no one actually talks about the game in there, it's just people posting their glamours. The drawback is that this being 4chan, threads are deleted after a few days so it's cumbersome digging through archive sites if you want to find discussion on a specific topic, and it's difficult to make friends there.
  • Spacebattles has indepth discussions of the story. Also has good recommendations for gameplay for newcomers. Little to no discussion of the gameplay. Is a little bit of an echochamber.
  • The Gamefaqs forum for FFXIV also has good discussions (namely the gameplay but sometimes the story) but people don't reply to each other as much and there aren't as many indepth discussions.



FFXIV communities you should avoid:
  • Something Awful is filled with hardcore fanboys and cultists. The one guy there who doesn't think FFXIV is god's gift to mankind is regularly mocked and derided by many of the posters in that thread. The moderators will also ban you for dissenting to the narrative that FFXIV is the bestest thing ever. Also you have to pay money to register an account there, which is ostensibly to keep out the trolls, but it just results in the userbase being made up of incredibly egotistical people who think they are in a very special elitist club.
  • The r/FFXIV subreddit is just fanart and memes being posted and cultists pretending everything is nice and happy and that there are no problems. Anyone who bothers trying to make an indepth discussion or doesn't go along with the consensus is downvoted and ignored. I know there are other r/FFXIV subreddits but the upvote/downvote system is cancerous and leads to echochambers.

I don't know what the r/FFXIV Discord is like, but given how bad your average fandom Discord is, I'm going to presume it's just as awful. Honestly Discord is best used for small communities.
I wish people were more aware of this. Could not have posted this better myself.