Openly admitting to ignoring the players

[Docum]

As a newer player this is all rather disheartening. Healer has always been my preferred role. Currently I'm leveling my way through heavensward and I've done a lot of lvl 50 Extreme Trials. Ifrit and Ramuh require a fair bit of healing, the later mostly because all of my runs have contained people new to the fight. These fights have been made much easier through over gearing.

Everything I've heard indicates the state of healer won't be changing much. I've done low level dungeons with dark knights and warriors without casting a single heal. Level 50 dungeons aren't much better if people know the mechanics. I don't think it's unfair to ask if I'm going to be dpsing the majority of the time I'm going to need a bit more then just a small handful of abilities to use.

The crazy part is, because I have to do MSQ, I'm given hundred's of hours to learn this. As I level, I'm given more healing cool downs to use inbetween my two main heals while I learn a grand total of no new dps abilities.

As it stands I'd rather just queue as dps, queuing only as healer for fights with a lot of damage intake. This duality in gameplay and disparity in content hasn't made for a good experience D:

[Kabooa]

Very helpful passive-aggression, but it's considered good form to wait for a response before you start madly chomping at someone who has to critically think for you. Would you care tackling the bulk of the argument instead of needling at the convenient one or are you just here to start fights?

Oh boy, anecdotal evidence is thinking critically.

Love it.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

You guys are so focused on making the game harder for you when it’s not about you. It’s about the players who don’t want to treat this like a job and still do optimal dps with not extreme amounts of effort

[BrokentoothMarch]

Oh boy, anecdotal evidence is thinking critically.

Love it.

So the answer to that was "I'm just here to start fights."

You must be fun at parties.

[Truen]

You guys are so focused on making the game harder for you when it’s not about you. It’s about the players who don’t want to treat this like a job and still do optimal dps with not extreme amounts of effort

Look, on some level I agree--shortbus people do matter, but let's not pretend there isn't a happy medium between 1-button spam and something closer to the dynamic and fun design we had in 4.0.

[BrokentoothMarch]

Look, on some level I agree--shortbus people do matter, but let's not pretend there isn't a happy medium between 1-button spam and something closer to the dynamic and fun design we had in 4.0.

It does bother me how many people seem to think there is absolutely no variant between literally a singular button and having to play Green DPS like a piano. Though extremely rare in my experience, I still can't understand those who would resist maybe a few extra buttons to compensate for the twenty I don't use.

[Kabooa]

So the answer to that was "I'm just here to start fights."

You must be fun at parties.

If the forums were only filled with polite discussion and well tailored arguments, no one would be here.

As for your arguments - Opinions, more like - What exactly do you want me to counter? That Trust wipes are nearly solely on the player? That SE has to consider more than an overly vocal minority on the forums? You'll have to forgive me - I don't see rants as something worth "critically thinking" about.

You're more than entitled to be disappointed about the recent announcements, I know I am. I understand it, but you say silly things like the Trust Party specifically being to replace healers when that couldn't be further from the truth, you're going to get a little snark.

[BrokentoothMarch]

If the forums were only filled with polite discussion and well tailored arguments, no one would be here.

As for your arguments - Opinions, more like - What exactly do you want me to counter? That Trust wipes are nearly solely on the player? That SE has to consider more than an overly vocal minority on the forums? You'll have to forgive me - I don't see rants as something worth "critically thinking" about.

You're more than entitled to be disappointed about the recent announcements, I know I am. I understand it, but you say silly things like the Trust Party specifically being to replace healers when that couldn't be further from the truth, you're going to get a little snark.

You continue to needle on the Trust tangent because you have nothing else. You're being snarky and hyperfocusing on that because you know any deviation from that is going to require an actual response, whether you can trump it or not. You're arguing in bad faith, as you only seek to "Win", not discuss and tackle the problems that are objectively present. There has been statistical dissatisfaction for healer changes, especially AST, back in the survey done in SB. Will that be dismissed as "Well, only a minority did that test?"

The biggest issue is I can't even try to handle your own stance because all you've done is mock and focus on an irrelevant complaint. One that I fully admitted was irrelevant and am even willing to say should not have been written, as I'm still going off the bitterness of what we've been dealing with as not only players, but paying customers. There's nothing for me to debate, rebuke, or discuss with you because all you have is base mockery. Not "a little snark" as you attempt to make it out so cutely.

Sadly, as much as I'd rather not start making enemies, you have nothing of value to say and clearly are only here to spark hostilities as you've proven with not one, not two, but three posts. I wish you the best in your endeavors and genuinely hope you enjoy the game where it's going. I am not. And I am going to discuss why I am not. However, just not with you.

Dismiss this as "Oh, ignoring me because I disagree" if you wish. I can't see that attitude stopping just yet.

[ItMe]

If the forums were only filled with polite discussion and well tailored arguments, no one would be here.

Sure I would.
Being able to talk with people about a thing I like is what brings me here.

[Kabooa]

Sure I would.
That's the stuff that brings me here.

I wish I could say the same - Day after the liveletter I was looking forward to see what sort of speculation and discussion might be had.

But as should be expected, it was full of Scholoton memes. Rightfully so, mind you.