Openly admitting to ignoring the players

[Aword3213]

Who knows, it's not like WHM and SCH don't already need to go melee to cast Holy/AoW (Gods I hate AoW so much tho...), not to mention DNC is technically a melee job when regarding their aoe rotation, RDM has a melee phase, SMN and SGE(?) have gap closers, and NIN is [jokingly] considered an honorary ranged job - I think that while making a pure melee healer a la WoW holy paladin or Diablo monk would be impossible, designing a healer with a kit heavily involved in short distance combat/healing can be done.

Good to know there are some people use Holy, Art of War in 8 man raids

[Allegor]

Good to know there are some people use Holy, Art of War in 8 man raids

Adds are rare in raids, but at least I do use Holy if I need to. That said, I'm speaking in general gameplay, not specifically 8 man raids.

[Yhisa]

Wait what??

Did u all forget that they legit said all healers is getting a holy treatment with their AoE skills ....

That means Art of War 2 now does more then just "damage" and that all healers can provide buffs to the party

At this current time we DO NOT have the new tool tips for the current healers, the only healer we have tool tips on is sage and that's it

We don't even know if glare/broil/malefic does new things, we do not know what the new gravity/holy/art of war does either

At this current time scholars are throwing their hands in the air AGAIN before even knowing anything at all

Sigh this is just a repeat history of 3.X where scholar legit panicked over AST......Now it's panicking over SAGE, scholars always panic over any new healing job that gets put into the game

Been here for 8 years in total and history repeats it self .....sigh

[Baxcel]

Wait what??

Did u all forget that they legit said all healers is getting a holy treatment with their AoE skills ....

That means Art of War 2 now does more then just "damage" and that all healers can provide buffs to the party

At this current time we DO NOT have the new tool tips for the current healers, the only healer we have tool tips on is sage and that's it

We don't even know if glare/broil/malefic does new things, we do not know what the new gravity/holy/art of war does either

At this current time scholars are throwing their hands in the air AGAIN before even knowing anything at all

Sigh this is just a repeat history of 3.X where scholar legit panicked over AST......Now it's panicking over SAGE, scholars always panic over any new healing job that gets put into the game

Been here for 8 years in total and history repeats it self .....sigh

Unless I misunderstood what the translation lady was saying.. I heard they said they couldn't do that because it would take away the uniqueness of WHT and they couldn't think of a debuff that would be fair or work on the other jobs?

[Axxion]

Unless I misunderstood what the translation lady was saying.. I heard they said they couldn't do that because it would take away the uniqueness of WHT and they couldn't think of a debuff that would be fair or work on the other jobs?

I heard the same thing. they mentioned the stun thing during the astro slide. Now for buffs which mean whm is defense, asto attack, sch speed But does this speed do? only movement? what about both haste and movement (assuming) , sage ???

https://youtu.be/WSGdMv72ghI?t=14923

Edit, we will need to wait until we get the official translation for this.

[Garnix]

I heard the same thing. they mentioned the stun thing during the astro slide. Now for buffs which mean whm is defense, asto attack, sch speed But does this speed do? only movement? what about both haste and movement (assuming) , sage ???

https://youtu.be/WSGdMv72ghI?t=14923

Edit, we will need to wait until we get the official translation for this.

They basically said "we did not add Stun to Gravity and Art of War, but each job will have a bit of flavor with their AoE". So, could simply be a slow/heavy debuff as I suggested above. (which would to people complaining about AST of course because heavy is not good haha)
For the buffs, they were really not specific at all. It could be that they each got a new single target shield...or it could be an actual buff...We will have to wait for this.

[Axxion]

They basically said "we did not add Stun to Gravity and Art of War, but each job will have a bit of flavor with their AoE". So, could simply be a slow/heavy debuff as I suggested above. (which would to people complaining about AST of course because heavy is not good haha)
For the buffs, they were really not specific at all. It could be that they each got a new single target shield...or it could be an actual buff...We will have to wait for this.

the thing about the buff are that they already have them you know. temperance and cards. im was just basing on them and what we saw at the letter. give or take for sch it might be a damage down or something


they did mention that benison will have charges

[Garnix]

Wait what??

Did u all forget that they legit said all healers is getting a holy treatment with their AoE skills ....

That means Art of War 2 now does more then just "damage" and that all healers can provide buffs to the party

At this current time we DO NOT have the new tool tips for the current healers, the only healer we have tool tips on is sage and that's it

We don't even know if glare/broil/malefic does new things, we do not know what the new gravity/holy/art of war does either

At this current time scholars are throwing their hands in the air AGAIN before even knowing anything at all

Sigh this is just a repeat history of 3.X where scholar legit panicked over AST......Now it's panicking over SAGE, scholars always panic over any new healing job that gets put into the game

Been here for 8 years in total and history repeats it self .....sigh

I wouldn't expect too much from the new AoE skills. They said they will have some differences to make them a bit more unique to each job but I can see it being like: Holy stuns, Gravity inflicts heavy (like Stella did), Art of War inflicts slow (like Shadowflare did). It would be nice if they had more useful effect and if they were made useful for single target fights (like DoTs, buffs, debuffs) but I doubt it.
For the new single target spells (glare/broile/malefic), even if they have a different effect, it wouldn't add much. It would still be about spamming them. Unless they are all brand new buttons and not just a trait "Dia 1 becomes Dia 2". But that's very unlikely based on what was shown.
Scholar will be fine though, I agree. It won't be 3.X Scholar, but it will be fine.

[EthanMoonkin]

Wait what??

Did u all forget that they legit said all healers is getting a holy treatment with their AoE skills ....

That means Art of War 2 now does more then just "damage" and that all healers can provide buffs to the party

At this current time we DO NOT have the new tool tips for the current healers, the only healer we have tool tips on is sage and that's it

We don't even know if glare/broil/malefic does new things, we do not know what the new gravity/holy/art of war does either

At this current time scholars are throwing their hands in the air AGAIN before even knowing anything at all

Sigh this is just a repeat history of 3.X where scholar legit panicked over AST......Now it's panicking over SAGE, scholars always panic over any new healing job that gets put into the game

Been here for 8 years in total and history repeats it self .....sigh

surprise. Art of War/Gravity just does damage. Tooltips released today. Glare/broil/malefic also don't do anything extra.

You wanna tell us again how history repeats itself? I mean it sure does with loyal defenders telling everyone to wait and blindly hope in unlikely changes... sigh