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  1. 09-18-2021 08:22 PM #1
    VelKallor
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    DoH levellng with 6.0 changes

    Levelling a crafter depends a lot on HQ mats, Ive read the liveletter and I have a friend who is not sure what this means, as they are still working on their crafters.

    Will that make crafting HQ items harder?

    As we all know, the more hq mats for an item, the better your chance to hq the finished item.

    So, anyone got anything on this? Im kinda confused.
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  2. 09-18-2021 08:47 PM #2
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    While this is of course relevant for Levequests, the bonus exp for the craft itself is not given for making HQ items but for filling up the quality gauge with your actions. By using all HQ materials you are basically lowering the amount of exp you can possibly get for a single craft by half.
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  3. 09-22-2021 06:16 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    While this is of course relevant for Levequests, the bonus exp for the craft itself is not given for making HQ items but for filling up the quality gauge with your actions. By using all HQ materials you are basically lowering the amount of exp you can possibly get for a single craft by half.
    It's not really relevant for Levequests. DoH doesn't "turn in" HQ items (save fisher). Their leves are self contained events.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 09-22-2021 at 06:20 AM.
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    If Ishgard restoration turn ins are going to continue then making leveling harder would be welcome. Making high quality/collectability if you meet the minimum, isn't that critical with how much turn in based content there is.
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  5. 09-19-2021 03:29 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    Levelling a crafter depends a lot on HQ mats, Ive read the liveletter and I have a friend who is not sure what this means, as they are still working on their crafters.

    Will that make crafting HQ items harder?

    As we all know, the more hq mats for an item, the better your chance to hq the finished item.

    So, anyone got anything on this? Im kinda confused.
    I don't know what they said in the liveletter, but I do know that currently levelling a crafter does not depend at all on HQ mats.

    If you have decent gear and know what you are doing you can easily craft most items from NQ materials and get an HQ result.
    To earn maximum amount of XP per item crafted you are best off starting with NQ materials since the amount of XP you get depend on how much you increased the quality of the item while crafting, not on what the endresult is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    To earn maximum amount of XP per item crafted you are best off starting with NQ materials since the amount of XP you get depend on how much you increased the quality of the item while crafting, not on what the endresult is.
    That's not accurate at all.

    You got the same exp regardless as long as the end result was HQ.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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  7. 09-19-2021 02:15 PM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    That's not accurate at all.

    You got the same exp regardless as long as the end result was HQ.
    No, you don't. You get exp based on how much you improved quality, so getting 100% quality when starting with NQ materials will give more exp than getting 100% quality when starting with HQ materials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    That's not accurate at all.

    You got the same exp regardless as long as the end result was HQ.
    I just happened to be crafting on my alt tonight and tried this out. HQ Adamantite Nugget with HQ materials was 149,696 and with NQ materials was 172,727. MistakeNot is right.
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  9. 09-19-2021 11:51 AM #9
    VelKallor
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    I don't know what they said in the liveletter, but I do know that currently levelling a crafter does not depend at all on HQ mats.
    There are a few crafter quests that require an hq product to complete.
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  10. 09-19-2021 12:27 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    There are a few crafter quests that require an hq product to complete.
    I think the point being that checkpoints in story do not equate to leveling.

    You can progress your XP without HQ mats/crafts quite easily. HQ crafting is expedient and necessary for some quests, but not necessary to progress to 80. Once you have overleveled a crafting class past the HQ quest, it's trivial to HQ something of a lower level without HQ mats.

    Also.. I expect there will be systems/skills implemented to facilitate crafting HQ at relevant level without HQ mats.
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