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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    When people say "America" they are usually referring to the US. If it's labeled "the Americas", then sure. So, I can understand any confusion. For demographic purposes, I do think it helps to separate north and south though, and/or latin america.
    ^ This.

    For anybody still wondering, yeah, I'm Canadian. I do not consider myself as "American" or living in "America." Of course Canada is part of the continent of North America; that's indisputable. I wasn't trying to give OP a hard time, or turn up my nose at my neighbours to the south -- I just found the choice of words amusing. Also, as others have pointed out, you'd probably get more valuable demographic data splitting up North and South America, rather than keeping it to some vague Western Hemisphere area.

    Hey, not to get off-topic, but I just found out about this obscure little movie. Maybe some of you have heard of it:



    I'm wondering where it takes place. Canada? Brazil? Venezuela? Mexico? Chile? It could be almost anywhere! If only there were some cultural clues... but of course, something something Amerigo Vespucci 500 years ago, there's just no way to know!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post

    Hey, not to get off-topic, but I just found out about this obscure little movie. Maybe some of you have heard of it:



    I'm wondering where it takes place. Canada? Brazil? Venezuela? Mexico? Chile? It could be almost anywhere! If only there were some cultural clues... but of course, something something Amerigo Vespicci 500 years ago, there's just no way to know!
    That's disingenuous.

    The cover clearly shows the race and attire of one of the characters and you should expect to know where the story is taking place.

    Just like it's disingenuous to purposefully misinterpret words because you don't like to identify with a certain aspect of culture.
    You knew they were talking about the Americas but chose to understand it as they were talking about the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    The cover clearly shows the race and attire of one of the characters and you should expect to know where the story is taking place.


    Oooooooh no... Please, no. This cannot be seriously be happening...

    Look, I know where American Psycho takes place. I was being a bit cheeky before, to make a point.

    But I have to ask: what "race" do you think the guy on the American Psycho cover is, and how does that tell you where he's from? You may be surprised to find out Christian Bale is originally from the UK. So, not "America" by any standard.

    Also, "attire"? Do you think there is only one country on earth where they wear a suit and tie? People wear that all over the world!

    Seems to me, the main signifier of where the movie takes place is actually the word "American." Not that there is some white dude wearing a suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post


    Oooooooh no... Please, no. This cannot be seriously be happening...

    Look, I know where American Psycho takes place. I was being a bit cheeky before, to make a point.

    But I have to ask: what "race" do you think the guy on the American Psycho cover is, and how does that tell you where he's from? You may be surprised to find out Christian Bale is originally from the UK. So, not "America" by any standard.

    Also, "attire"? Do you think there is only one country on earth where they wear a suit and tie? People wear that all over the world!

    Seems to me, the main signifier of where the movie takes place is actually the word "American." Not that there is some white dude wearing a suit.
    Even If I were to ignore the fact you're comparing a movie title to a question in a survey listing continents that would still be disingenuous.

    This isn't a question of whether you were or are being disingenuous, you are/where, you admitted to it:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fyrebrand View Post
    I just found the choice of words amusing.
    You understood what was being asked and the appropriate answer but you intentionally decided against properly answering.
    It was a joke and that's okay, it wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

    Its disingenuous because you're using the same logic you used on your first post as the one you're using on the post I originally quoted.
    You're purposefully misrepresenting the difficulty and the knowledge required to properly participate.
    I.E. you're pretending it's confusing for the sake of doing it.

    You don't need cultural clues to know that a movie featuring an English title with a Caucasian male in a suit will be focused around the US.
    If it's in English and the title is literally "The American Psycho" it's probably being produced by Hollywood, Hollywood is in America, specifically the US.
    Now if for some reason the above wasn't the case that would simply be bad marketing.
    Why? Because America is often used synonymously and interchangeably with the US.

    But a movie title isn't the same thing as a survey asking where you're from especially when continents are being listed.

    It has nothing to do with the US, Americans, or America and everything to do with interpreting the text in good faith the way it was presented in its context.

    Context is king. There was a survey, there was a question, there was an answer. You didn't like the answer, that's okay. Just don't pretend you didn't understand the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowedRuby View Post
    Heyo all! I am writing a study based on the demographical state of multiple games, and as it happens to be, FF14 is one of them! I would really appreciate if you could take some time off your day and fill in this form and if anyone is interested in the results I would be more than happy to share them! The entire form is fully anonymous. If you have any questions about the study itself then feel free to ask and I shall try to respond as soon as I can! Thank you all for reading this and I hope you have a great day!

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
    Tbh I think you're going to get a very not representative view of the demographics.

    If we take Reddit as an example, over 50% of the userbase is from the US and overwhelmingly young adult to adult white educated men ( educated doesn't mean that you're intelligent lol ).
    The Subreddit for FFXIV is probably the same and with a ton of people who don't even play the game or did in the past and are moreso just '' Redditors ''.

    It wouldn't surprise me if it's the same here more or less, only that at least we can prove that we play the game currently and that's about it.

    Edit: Some people even refer to this as the '' NA forums '' lol.
    Which I mean, it's not...

    It's the English speaking forum.
    But I think the mere fact that it's an English speaking forum pushes a lot of people away who are still playing the game.
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    major problem I see is that you will only get "accurate" demographics for english speaking forum users...

    I can see asia being severely under represented unless you post this on their forums. other EU languages will be as well.
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    If anything, the Americas should have been split into North and South America. Pretty hilarious to see the mental gymnastics at play to avoid being considered a part of North America though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    If anything, the Americas should have been split into North and South America. Pretty hilarious to see the mental gymnastics at play to avoid being considered a part of North America though.
    I agree since they do reside in two different hemispheres

    personally, as a Canadian, I dont care, I am part of the americas, yes, which in the plural does include South America. we get lumped in with people in the US constantly.. so I am used to it... just never call me 'murican. thats for people south of my border..
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    Quote Originally Posted by BowedRuby View Post
    Heyo all! I am writing a study based on the demographical state of multiple games, and as it happens to be, FF14 is one of them! I would really appreciate if you could take some time off your day and fill in this form and if anyone is interested in the results I would be more than happy to share them! The entire form is fully anonymous. If you have any questions about the study itself then feel free to ask and I shall try to respond as soon as I can! Thank you all for reading this and I hope you have a great day!

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    Hello, OP. For the sake of “political correctness” in this modern age, you may want to reword the question to something like “Which continent on the Earth do you current reside?” I’m assuming nobody on the space station is currently playing online games, but I could be wrong.

    (/sarcasm)
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    I must restrain myself from making Canadian jokes. It's really hard.
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