Smn Rework Suggestions After LL

[Tulzscha]

In ARR it was arcanist as the “sub job”, in heavensward it was trance turning the summoner into another caster, Stormblood/shadowbringers were my personal favourites because they made it about summoning

SMN was originally designed with Arcanist in mind, the name "Summoner" didn't come about until after the mechanics of the job were made - Sage was the same. I'm guessing they chose "Summoner" because of the pet. Since then they've made it more of an actual Summoner every xpac which made a big ol' mess lol. Now we have people wanting all manner of different things for the same job and there's no pleasing everyone.

I do think they're going in the right direction, there's just going to be a lot of friction going forward no matter what. Personally I just want a job that has the same management play style as current SMN, idc what it's called. I still think it'd be best to split SMN off Arcanist so it can be its own thing - ideally replacing it with a new dot caster (but that"s just me wanting a dot caster).

[GrizzlyTank]

Still think summoner should have had a nuke that mass summoned one of each carbuncle.

And arcanist still needs a "throw book" skill.

[Roda]

Still think summoner should have had a nuke that mass summoned one of each carbuncle.

And arcanist still needs a "throw book" skill.

LISTEN, WE NEED AN LB3 UPDATE

[Raikai]

LISTEN, WE NEED AN LB3 UPDATE

Lol that is amazing!

I'm surprised they didn't update SMN's LB3 to a big summon like Leviathan, for example. Or maybe they will and it's just not disclosed yet...

[GrizzlyTank]

LISTEN, WE NEED AN LB3 UPDATE

I love you.

[MercuryD]

LISTEN, WE NEED AN LB3 UPDATE

How dare you present such perfection to me though I know it will never happen!

[Xiozen]

Now we should in all honesty get additional summons as gems (or jewels) to be slotted in place of the ones we are currently using... for example, ramuh as a purple gem can be slotted to replace, say garuda... with his own abilities. Etc. Plenty of primals to choose from that have already been added to the game. So I can definitely see this as something that can be expanded upon. No need to increase or decrease the rotation either since the gems/jewels can be removed or adjusted depending on the summoner's playstyle.

[Roda]

Mmm spitballing ideas here, but I'd appreciate it if our gauges could show us the cooldown time remaining until our demi summons and aetherflow become available. Id also appreciate it if ahk morn and revelation could interact with the gauge as well. Like instead of a cooldown, have an element on the gauge need to charge up before a second use of the ability becomes available. It's functionally the same, but communicated in a way thats more fun than watching a timer tick down.

Just thinking of ways to keep our eyes off our hotbars and more focused on the action, and the gauges are an elegant way to display info that isn't all cluttered on our hotbar and status bar.

[Kolsykol]

I'd rather not have SMN summons cover half of my screen.

[ItMe]

I'd rather not have SMN summons cover half of my screen.

Typing /bahamutsize changes the size of Bahamut and Phoenix for you.
It toggled between small, medium, and large.
I hope this helps your screen stay uncluttered by summons.