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    Quote Originally Posted by Folsom View Post
    Anytime someone says "the player base thinks X," they're just trying to drum up support for the invisible army they wish they had because they certainly don't have any more access to that kind of information than you (or anyone else) does. Certainly enough of it thinks the healer skill ceiling is too low that it creates lively conversations across multiple media sites and suggests the existence of at least multiple opinions, so it's safe to assume that such trite statements as "the player base does not agree" have no value.
    If you want complex then play a dps people are too busy crying that healing is like playing soraka/yuumi when they want healers to be like zed/yasuo. Healing should be simple as it’s one of the most needed and respected jobs. It also is the thing that is in short supply. So why wouldn’t SE make it simple? Broil spam away I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    I don't think that's an accurate statement at all. Many are complaining about the bland, one-dimensional, limited options available to healing jobs already. But, I can only speak for myself and I too think healers in FF14 are terribly designed and too boring to play.
    Healers in FF14 aren't terribly designed, they heal just fine. What you all are asking for is some kind of dynamic DPS rotation which clearly the dev team is not interested in doing and I don't blame them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karthunk View Post
    Healers in FF14 aren't terribly designed, they heal just fine. What you all are asking for is some kind of dynamic DPS rotation which clearly the dev team is not interested in doing and I don't blame them.
    This times 1000
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    I like when non healer player think they know more on how to play healer than we do.
    Like, some of us have totally not played every content in this game as healer for 8/6/4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    If you want complex then play a dps people are too busy crying that healing is like playing soraka/yuumi when they want healers to be like zed/yasuo. Healing should be simple as it’s one of the most needed and respected jobs. It also is the thing that is in short supply. So why wouldn’t SE make it simple? Broil spam away I say.
    I take it you don't understand what "high skill ceiling" means, since you're obviously confusing it with "high skill floor." Jobs can have complexity that raises the skill ceiling without making them difficult for people to pick up and play effectively, so it's not like just raising the skill ceiling would turn people away from the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Being carried is insanely fun. You barely have to keep the party alive while managing mechanics AND not focus on dps either. Spamming broil for a player like me is fun I love that shit if healer was like any other level 80 job where you are constantly weaving and pressing buttons I’d never do it. It’s why I quit playing sch when I realized I had to put an iota of effort into clearing content. Too much work I’m lazy my shit should be simple since I'm the reason the roulette queue popped. You guys may not like it but this is probably the mindset of majority of trade mentors who just want to play farm/clear shit/learn mechanics and not worry about pausing Netflix and random shit that only exists to stimulate brain cells.
    In case anyone needed a proper translation of what this person's actually saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Folsom View Post
    I take it you don't understand what "high skill ceiling" means, since you're obviously confusing it with "high skill floor." Jobs can have complexity that raises the skill ceiling without making them difficult for people to pick up and play effectively, so it's not like just raising the skill ceiling would turn people away from the job.
    False because people will have expectations of you to be at said ceiling. For example “You are doing expert trials without the ability to use X skill extremely well??!?”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boizinho View Post
    In case anyone needed a proper translation of what this person's actually saying.
    Haha part of that is sorta true. We are the reason your que popped. Making healing more complex only makes less people play it or play it well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Haha part of that is sorta true. We are the reason your que popped. Making healing more complex only makes less people play it or play it well.
    Not really, there's lots of people on this forum who are ex healers who would gladly come back to the role if they stopped making it baby mode difficulty.

    There's nothing inherently satisfying with pressing 1 button and refreshing your DoT every 30 seconds when you've got jobs that literally summon primals or cause huge explosions with rotations that take some semblance of skill
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFuzzyMu11in View Post
    Haha part of that is sorta true. We are the reason your que popped. Making healing more complex only makes less people play it or play it well.
    Any monkey can play a ShB healer in Duty Finder content. This kind of ego might be warranted in WoW, but it's definitely not in FFXIV. Healing is the easiest role, even in Savage, and people typically refuse to play it because it's extremely boring. Someone has to press the "heal party after raid-wide" button every 30 seconds, but you're not special for taking on that role at all. You sound like a minimum wage employee at a grocery store bragging about "I'm the reason the food is on the shelf for you to put in your cart. I'M the reason why you were able to pay for it with your credit card so the anti-theft scanner doesn't beep." It's honestly a pathetic thing to have a superiority complex about. You didn't pick the role to be essential, you picked the role to be lazy. Anyone can press the heal party button after the hurt party spell. Most people strive to be better than that. You don't.

    Also, despite it being mind-numbingly boring, I typically do queue as healer simply to ensure that the slot isn't filled by someone like you. There's absolutely nothing worse in this game than queuing into a group with an entitled and lazy healer with princess syndrome. Every single Duty Finder horror story is a result of attitudes like yours.
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