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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    It definitely makes solo duties seem sadly hilarious.
    "Wow you're such a peerless warrior in combat. It's really amazing watching you do what nobody else can!"

    >Enters combat with Zenos or whoever
    >Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil

    Gosh I wish I could teach my masterful techniques to you guys, but it would take you decades to learn such skillful combat powers.
    Exactly. Thematically the design of a 1-button spammer is absolutely absurd and ridiculous in FF14 lore.

    But, beyond that I almost feel SCH developers hold the average player in the worst possible light--like they think the majority are so irredeemably stupid pressing 1 button endlessly is all they can handle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    Exactly. It's almost like the SCH developers hold the average player in the worst possible light--like they think the majority are so irredeemably stupid pressing 1 button endlessly is all they can handle.
    White Mage has almost the exact same one button boring gameplay, you aren't alone there. I've been complaining about it going this direction since late Heavensward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    Exactly. Thematically the design of a 1-button spammer is absolutely absurd and ridiculous in FF14 lore.

    But, beyond that I almost feel SCH developers hold the average player in the worst possible light--like they think the majority are so irredeemably stupid pressing 1 button endlessly is all they can handle.
    Might be on to somthing here, as jobs get easier and content gets less mechanics. After the whole Healer thing, SMN joining MCH for the “guess how many buttons you can press in 9 seconds but that’s ok we are better cuz we are prettier” club. I’m convinced the devs think very low of player intelligence
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    this is why I went to FFXI, at least I'm not spamming one button as a healer and I have access to allot of spells, especially I can hit shit with my club and do a weaponskill or debuff..


    FFXIV sch is so embarrassing

    I know! make it like FFXI SCH and let it have access to black and white magics and control the weather too?

    ohh..is that to complicated for the xiv devs?
    ok but consider the 5 year old children you're preventing from picking up healing because of your overly complicated ideas?

    Have you considered the idea that maybe not all healers have object permanence and aren't capable of sustaining a rotation because as soon as they look away to check their gauges, the tanks/bosses stop existing in their mind?
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    Simple rotations make the game more fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Oh wow. you mean to tell me that all of those buttons I weave don't exist at all? all those buttons i can now fluidly tuck between every Broil cast are just not there whatsoever? If a game is not fun for you dont play it. All you're doing is making yourself miserable.
    On a more serious note, figuring out what and when to weave was one of the few execution-related optimizations we could make. They took that from us too. I get how this makes our life easier but damn, this is an MMO that people will hopefully play for a long time. Yet they refuse to give us any opportunity to grow into our healers. Starting to feel more and more like fast food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    It definitely makes solo duties seem sadly hilarious.
    "Wow you're such a peerless warrior in combat. It's really amazing watching you do what nobody else can!"

    >Enters combat with Zenos or whoever
    >Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil Broil

    Gosh I wish I could teach my masterful techniques to you guys, but it would take you decades to learn such skillful combat powers.
    Playing a healer in MSQ definitely feels a lot less WOL-esque than playing a tank or DPS.

    It's kind of hard to get into character when you're basically falling asleep because you have another 5 broils before you can refresh your DOT and another 8 broils before you can start using energy drain and be a little less bored
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    On a more serious note, figuring out what and when to weave was one of the few execution-related optimizations we could make. They took that from us too. I get how this makes our life easier but damn, this is an MMO that people will hopefully play for a long time. Yet they refuse to give us any opportunity to grow into our healers. Starting to feel more and more like fast food.
    "...this is an MMO that people will hopefully play for a long time. Yet they refuse to give us any opportunity to grow into our healers. Starting to feel more and more like fast food." I just wish the dev team could read this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    I can't do it anymore. I'm done. I can't take two more years of [Broil]. Now at increased speed. I get to press [Broil] more. Faster. More times per pull, more times per encounter. Just [Broil] forever. Sometimes [Biolysis]. Do we even still have Ruin II? No, just [Broil]. Once, twice, three times. Count to twenty six. Now count to twenty four. [Broil]
    [Broil II]
    [Broil III]
    [Broilitude]
    [Broil IV the broiltening]

    How many [Broil] do I get to fit in betwen Biolysis?

    At least I can go mildly faster whenever I [Broil]
    To be technical, I don't think you will be able to cast it more. The cast time is 1.5s, but recast will remain on the GCD. What this will translate to is far less interruptions as the result of having to cancel a cast to avoid taking damage. A 1.5s cast time has to be cancelled nearly immediately for it to not still go off as a result of slide casting.

    I get you point though and if it is any consolation, Broil upgrades are looking more and more like heat seeking technology, which does get a very two big thumbsup from me.
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    People of the 'me me me' generation wanted their instant gratification for their vocal cry festival - and Yoshi delivered. I said years ago that the accessibility speech would be the dumbing down of wow all over again and despite the 'shut up wait and see' remarks - here we are. With a ''tactician'' who is so brainless a single button seems to be all it can manage. Now maybe I am wrong; and I take a dose of the 'people are different' like everyone else. But things are comparative in life are they not? You watch a trailer - its not hard to see which sticks out. You follow trends over entire years. Its not hard to see what sticks out. So when your gaming experience, job preference is neutered to this degree - one might ask, what is the 'job fantasy' of Scholars these days? Playing some sort of idiot who somehow got more mentally deficient the more reading they did? Lol. Silly yes but sometimes I wonder to the degree peoples logic seems to fail them.

    I can't fathom a reality where SCH and other scenarios are acceptable. You can tow the '1% challenge' content routine ad nauseum - but if there wasn't an ability to jump between jobs on a single character; I suspect the players of the job would be somewhere near zero. It's not good enough. I don't know how you've put up with it so long. You deserve a medal in patience - and then some.
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