Broil

[Karthunk]

They aren't going to give you better dps potential just because you have a crew of sweats that can dance around mechanic in fight X.

You have a ton of tools as a healer it's just that your group doesn't need them anymore most of the time for encounter X. That has been the curse of healers in every prog guild, in every mmo, I have ever been a part of. Healers are critically needed for encounters until said encounter reaches farm status.

[Dogempire]

The above guy I quoted had about 95+% of his casts dps, which is only happening if he is ignoring a majority of the healing. I'm still not seeing how pushing 3 different buttons for some kind of rotation is going to make a massive game play change for healers over just pushing one button.

It's more about having more to occupy your attention than it is about actually making the DPS rotation more complex, I mean if you have to wait around to do laundry or you have to mow the lawn, at least having music breaks the monotony and gives you more to focus on

The current setup for healer dps takes very little attention to the point where it's kind of sad. Even adding an extra DoT that lasts 18 seconds would mean you have to pay much more attention in single target fights because you'd have to pay attention to 2 timers instead of 1.

[Grimoire-M]

Need a Snickers? I know over exaggeration when I see it. Maybe playing a Sage will fill your need to click a few more dps buttons?



The above guy I quoted had about 95+% of his casts dps, which is only happening if he is ignoring a majority of the healing. I'm still not seeing how pushing 3 different buttons for some kind of rotation is going to make a massive game play change for healers over just pushing one button.

Maybe because we should aim for at least 8 or so for a legitimate DPS rotation? Hell we can even integrate healing and/or DPS into a few charge-based cooldowns (Say Assize, or Bane + Deployment Tactics), let’s say 1-3 buttons are dedicated to that, that leaves room for at least 2 buttons to be made a part of the core rotation over the three we have now. That’s basically staggered DoTs from HW/Stormblood right there.

A little extra forethought over what we had then isn’t a big ask. They’ve proven they’re capable of it already, but refuse to keep trying.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

If there is just broil that means you can focus more on healing and less on rotations. Healers shouldn’t be forced to learn rotations unlike dps and maybe tanks. They are situational based on what is needed and rotations disrupt that.

[Semirhage]

If there is just broil that means you can focus more on healing and less on rotations. Healers shouldn’t be forced to learn rotations unlike dps and maybe tanks. They are situational based on what is needed and rotations disrupt that.

If I spent all of my time focused on healing, I'd spend the vast majority of content casting Medica 2/Regen once or twice a minute and doing /manderville for the other 55 seconds of that minute. Healing outside high-end difficulty requires almost zero effort or attention most of the time.

[ForteNightshade]

The above guy I quoted had about 95+% of his casts dps, which is only happening if he is ignoring a majority of the healing. I'm still not seeing how pushing 3 different buttons for some kind of rotation is going to make a massive game play change for healers over just pushing one button.

They're being intentionally exaggerative to emphasise a point: you spend significantly less time healing than DPSing despite supposedly being a healer. And that 95% claim isn't entirely off base either. E12N, for example, has practically no outgoing damage. The entire fight can be handled by a single healer occasionally using Star.

It isn't that pressing three buttons makes a "massive" change but it helps break up the monotony. Warrior doesn't exactly scream complexity but you know why it feels good? Fell Cleave. Building towards Fell Cleave, Inner Chaos and inevitably unleashing Inner Release help break up an otherwise boring gameplay loop of 1-2-3. Healers lack such a luxury because unlike Warrior who can Fell Cleave second combo, theoretically, healers will spend at least 30 seconds pressing the exact same button over and over again.

If there is just broil that means you can focus more on healing and less on rotations. Healers shouldn’t be forced to learn rotations unlike dps and maybe tanks. They are situational based on what is needed and rotations disrupt that.

What healing? Content below Savage has practically no outgoing damage. Look at my aforementioned example of E12N. Even at release, you could literally never press a single heal and be perfectly fine. Star and Assize being used entirely for damage will cover everything indirectly. Tower of Paradigm's Breach never requires a single GCD unless people are just straight dumb and stand in things repeatedly. Healer oGCDs are so powerful and fights so scripted nowadays, they'll never have to worry about spending much time healing. And oGCD is no different than a tank weaving in Vengeance or Rampart.

[Roeshel]

What healing? Content below Savage has practically no outgoing damage. .

Not quite true. Healing double pulling tank in the Holminster Switch while spamming AoE is harder than any savage tankbuster and that's not level cap. It is a bit embarrassing that level cap dungeons are actually easier. Maybe it is because of item level.

[Karthunk]

What healing? Content below Savage has practically no outgoing damage. Look at my aforementioned example of E12N. Even at release, you could literally never press a single heal and be perfectly fine. Star and Assize being used entirely for damage will cover everything indirectly. Tower of Paradigm's Breach never requires a single GCD unless people are just straight dumb and stand in things repeatedly. Healer oGCDs are so powerful and fights so scripted nowadays, they'll never have to worry about spending much time healing. And oGCD is no different than a tank weaving in Vengeance or Rampart.

And this is where my major disagreement comes in.

If you are in a group that is on point then sure the healing can be light for some encounters. Classes can't be built on content being ran perfect. If people feel that sch needs two more buttons to push to feel a great sense of accomplishment and thrill while playing that is perfectly fine. Don't decrease the healing ability while on your dps crusade because there are a lot of people that need those skills because their group is not composed of Chads.

From what I can tell this is the only region jumping up and down complaining about SCH which in turn means all of this will fall on deaf ears.

[Roeshel]

And this is where my major disagreement comes in.

If you are in a group that is on point then sure the healing can be light for some encounters. Classes can't be built on content being ran perfect. If people feel that sch needs two more buttons to push to feel a great sense of accomplishment and thrill while playing that is perfectly fine. Don't decrease the healing ability while on your dps crusade because there are a lot of people that need those skills because their group is not composed of Chads.

From what I can tell this is the only region jumping up and down complaining about SCH which in turn means all of this will fall on deaf ears.

GCD heals exist only to facilitate bad play at least in Shb. It is not a good thing. Tanks tend to not bother with their oGCD mitigation abilities because they have been constantly overhealed for the past 70-80 levels and they have never been put a position where they have to play their role because they actually don't need to, they have a GCD heal spammer at their disposal.

There is nothing wrong with making mistakes actual mistakes. In trials and raids, the oGCDs of one healer are more than enough to cover the healing needed. The second healer can utilize their oGCD into recovering the party from mistakes to a certain degree. We don't need GCD healing in this game.

[Truen]

From what I can tell this is the only region jumping up and down complaining about SCH which in turn means all of this will fall on deaf ears.

The Jap player base resents current Scholar build as well. But, if the "healer" forums on this site are largely abandoned so if you're looking for specifics from those players you'll need to visit 3rd party sites.