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    Broil

    I can't do it anymore. I'm done. I can't take two more years of [Broil]. Now at increased speed. I get to press [Broil] more. Faster. More times per pull, more times per encounter. Just [Broil] forever. Sometimes [Biolysis]. Do we even still have Ruin II? No, just [Broil]. Once, twice, three times. Count to twenty six. Now count to twenty four. [Broil]
    [Broil II]
    [Broil III]
    [Broilitude]
    [Broil IV the broiltening]

    How many [Broil] do I get to fit in betwen Biolysis?

    At least I can go mildly faster whenever I [Broil]
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    You should be glad they solved your movement issues! Now you have the distinguished privilege of pressing the 1 key 20 more times in an encounter because you don't have to drop casts entirely just to move.

    We heard you like complexity, but anything more than [Broil] is too scary for new players. Eat it, veteran healers. We don't care what you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrimGale View Post
    I can't do it anymore. I'm done. I can't take two more years of [Broil]. Now at increased speed. I get to press [Broil] more. Faster. More times per pull, more times per encounter. Just [Broil] forever. Sometimes [Biolysis]. Do we even still have Ruin II? No, just [Broil]. Once, twice, three times. Count to twenty six. Now count to twenty four. [Broil]
    [Broil II]
    [Broil III]
    [Broilitude]
    [Broil IV the broiltening]

    How many [Broil] do I get to fit in betwen Biolysis?

    At least I can go mildly faster whenever I [Broil]
    Play something else. Do what other people do and take a darn break if you're getting burnt out on something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Play something else. Do what other people do and take a darn break if you're getting burnt out on something.
    Ah yes. Finding pressing one button a gajillion times over and over and over and over again boring is a problem with the player, not hideous class design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Ah yes. Finding pressing one button a gajillion times over and over and over and over again boring is a problem with the player, not hideous class design.
    Oh wow. you mean to tell me that all of those buttons I weave don't exist at all? all those buttons i can now fluidly tuck between every Broil cast are just not there whatsoever? If a game is not fun for you dont play it. All you're doing is making yourself miserable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Oh wow. you mean to tell me that all of those buttons I weave don't exist at all? all those buttons i can now fluidly tuck between every Broil cast are just not there whatsoever? If a game is not fun for you dont play it. All you're doing is making yourself miserable.
    Hey, you get to weave energy drain in there sometimes. That is if they haven't removed it. Hopefully they increase the need for healing this exp. Oh no, where did I hear that before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Oh wow. you mean to tell me that all of those buttons I weave don't exist at all? all those buttons i can now fluidly tuck between every Broil cast are just not there whatsoever? If a game is not fun for you dont play it. All you're doing is making yourself miserable.
    Yeah sure, occasionally pressing cooldowns once every 20 seconds to a minute is riveting. Tell me another one.

    This game is fun. When you play a DPS. Because unlike healers, some of them actually have a gameplay loop designed into them. One that doesn't involve casting one spell over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

    FFXIV healer design is taking all of the richness of RPG history you could pull from and reducing it to Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Cure! Magic Missile, Magic Missile...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Yeah sure, occasionally pressing cooldowns once every 20 seconds to a minute is riveting. Tell me another one.

    This game is fun. When you play a DPS. Because unlike healers, some of them actually have a gameplay loop designed into them. One that doesn't involve casting one spell over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

    FFXIV healer design is taking all of the richness of RPG history you could pull from and reducing it to Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Magic Missile, Cure! Magic Missile, Magic Missile...
    Its always this argument. Want to not be bored dpsing as a healer? Play a DPS.

    This argument needs to die already.

    IF YOU MAKE HEALING DOWNTIME PREVALENT; MAKE THE SKILLS WE USE TO FILL SAID DOWNTIME MORE INTERESTING. THAT IS IT. NOBODY SAID ANTYHING ABOUT HAVING BIGGER NUMBERS. WE DIDN'T EVEN SAY WE WANTED DPS SKILLS EXPLICITLY. JUST SOMETHING. SOMETHING MORE THAN USING THE SAME GODDAM SPELL THIRTEEN TIMES IN A ROW. PLEASE. SOMETHING THAT CAN ALWAYS HELP THE PARTY. NOT SOME SITUATIONAL STUFF THAT WE GET TO USE ONLY WHEN X OR Y HAPPENS ONCE IN A BLUE MOON. SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS USEFUL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    Oh wow. you mean to tell me that all of those buttons I weave don't exist at all? all those buttons i can now fluidly tuck between every Broil cast are just not there whatsoever? If a game is not fun for you dont play it. All you're doing is making yourself miserable.
    On a more serious note, figuring out what and when to weave was one of the few execution-related optimizations we could make. They took that from us too. I get how this makes our life easier but damn, this is an MMO that people will hopefully play for a long time. Yet they refuse to give us any opportunity to grow into our healers. Starting to feel more and more like fast food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    On a more serious note, figuring out what and when to weave was one of the few execution-related optimizations we could make. They took that from us too. I get how this makes our life easier but damn, this is an MMO that people will hopefully play for a long time. Yet they refuse to give us any opportunity to grow into our healers. Starting to feel more and more like fast food.
    "...this is an MMO that people will hopefully play for a long time. Yet they refuse to give us any opportunity to grow into our healers. Starting to feel more and more like fast food." I just wish the dev team could read this.
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