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    Andy_T93's Avatar
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    Miles Floof
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    Raiden
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    Monk Lv 100
    All I know Is that I will be absolutely gutted if GL is truly gone. People say positional are the staple of the job but for me it has always been the speed its why I hate DRG and SaM they feel so slow. If they remove GL then honestly I have no clue what I will main, maybe go back to Nin
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    SpeckledBurd's Avatar
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Andy_T93 View Post
    All I know Is that I will be absolutely gutted if GL is truly gone. People say positional are the staple of the job but for me it has always been the speed its why I hate DRG and SaM they feel so slow. If they remove GL then honestly I have no clue what I will main, maybe go back to Nin
    I'm not sure where this rumor is coming from, Yoshi-P's recast was still sub 2 seconds so we still have our current level of Greased Lightning as our base GCD.


    It's just "gone" in the sense that it doesn't have a timer on it.
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    Last edited by SpeckledBurd; 09-20-2021 at 05:31 AM.

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    AndieEldritch's Avatar
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    Andie Eldritch
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    I'm not sure where this rumor is coming from, Yoshi-P's recast was still sub 2 seconds so we still have our current level of Greased Lightning as our base GCD.
    It's just "gone" in the sense that it doesn't have a timer on it.
    Maybe it's something lost in translation, the wording during the presentation made out like we were still building stacks and they said something about it being removed.
    Perhaps they experimented with bringing it back and then 180'd and for some reason still talked as though old GL was a thing.
    Or maybe it's a one and done trait now rather than a progressive trait and that got mixed up in translation by the interpreter?

    "The gameplay element of stacking Greased Lightning will be done away with - So to compensate for that Chakras will be unlocked at a lower level." the quote, which seems a bit redundant with that already being gone. [2:21:51 on Live Letter Stream]
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    Last edited by AndieEldritch; 09-20-2021 at 06:30 AM.

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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndieEldritch View Post
    Maybe it's something lost in translation, the wording during the presentation made out like we were still building stacks and they said something about it being removed.
    Perhaps they experimented with bringing it back and then 180'd and for some reason still talked as though old GL was a thing.
    Or maybe it's a one and done trait now rather than a progressive trait and that got mixed up in translation by the interpreter?

    "The gameplay element of stacking Greased Lightning will be done away with - So to compensate for that Chakras will be unlocked at a lower level." the quote, which seems a bit redundant with that already being gone. [2:21:51 on Live Letter Stream]
    We'll have to wait for more info, but to me that sounds like Greased Lightning 4 (or it'll just be level 4 equivalent just called Greased Lightning) will just be a passive trait that gets unlocked when monk is unlocked, making it a job that just starts fast rather than something you have to unlock over time. And to make the job still feel like you're making progress, rather than unlock greased lightning levels 1-50, you'll get chakras. I wouldn't be surprised if it's sometime around level 30 or 35.
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    Miles Floof
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    I'm not sure where this rumor is coming from, Yoshi-P's recast was still sub 2 seconds so we still have our current level of Greased Lightning as our base GCD.


    It's just "gone" in the sense that it doesn't have a timer on it.
    Thank you so much for posting these, made me feel way better about it
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    Nanot'hrat C'hla'eag
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    Goblin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Allow me to add to that... Base GCD is 2.50, as we all know.

    Greased Lightning I = 5% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.40
    Greased Lightning II = 10% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.25
    Greased Lightning III = 15% = Monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.12
    Greased Lightning IV = 20% = monk-exclusive base GCD is 2.00

    As such, the Greased Lightning traits are for certain still there, there is no doubt about that...

    Yoshi-P's GCD in that Live Stream being 1.97 just means that he had almost +0 Skill Speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anahlise_Auhn_Giinslai View Post
    [...]A much better thing to do with a large amount of actions, too many for a player to use all of the actions, is to create in-class diversity. ...hieh.. my disappointment finds it mind-blowing stupid that FFXIV never did this, and has always done that delete actions nonsense, instead.[...] ------------ [...]"I want you to lower me down into my coffin... so that you can.. let. me. down.. one. last. time." - 6.0 Dark Knight[...]
    [...]"...you want to know.. why I chose to abandon the abyss for the void? ...It is simple. That power of darkness did fail me, so I chose to embrace a new power of the darkness...." - Anahlise, a Reaper[...]

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    Solala Sola
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    Removal of positionals for those two skills seems odd and kind of pointless.
    If you're in position for boot shine or dragon kick, then you're already in position for the rest of the combo unless the tank hates you.

    Of course, you could also argue that positionals after the first hit in a combo are pointless for this very reason.
    But that's another rabbit hole.
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    Last edited by Orbus; 09-20-2021 at 09:38 AM.

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    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Whats the matter guys? You dont like Monk the 3rd new job added for End Walker lol!
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    Sorzai's Avatar
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    Atreus Yevon
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    Kujata
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    I don't think positionals need to be removed or de-emphasized in every job. I just think that not every melee job needs to have positionals. That Reaper has positionals at all is disappointing to me and it relegates the job to something I'll level just to level, and then never actually play it because I really don't like positionals that go beyond "hit it from the back". Any job that has positionals that requires me to dance between rear and flank basically gets leveled and then put in the bin for me. I'm not saying I want other jobs to have their positions removed or de-emphasized, I just wish Reaper could have been a melee job that doesn't have any positionals. Are there even any melee jobs currently that don't have any positionals at all? If not... would it be so bad to have one?
    Positions are optional, you don't HAVE to do them. That's the beauty of it, but if you want to play the best u can at monk then yes positional are important.
    If the positional are removed for increased speed, I'm fine with that. It might get too busy have to juggle positionals, boss mechanics, etc. And if that's the reason for removing it sure, I don't see any issue, but if they remove it because plebs are too lazy to play the damn job optimally and git gud then wtf that's just bs.
    Removing something to please the greater audience is just bad game development because they don't regularly play the damn class. Whereas us monk mains have to suffer because our job identity is slowly getting taken away.
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    If this leads to us using suplex on a train, I'll call it a win.
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