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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Phlegma having charges means you'd probably want to hang onto one to use during party/raid burst windows or if you need more mobility.
    Raid buff is 100% sure but I think toxicon 2 fills the mobility niche better (same potency as main nuke + insta cast)
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    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    Emnity management is a group responsibility, HP management is a group responsibility, Mitigation is a group responsibility ,DPS is a group responsibility
    Anybody saying "I only want to <x>" just tells me they are lazy and selfish.

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    If i’m not mistaken there are at least 2 skills that weren’t shown, the icon for one of them could be seen though. They might be shield spells.
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    I've seen tooltips around that describe Phlegma III as an oGCD.

    510 potency, 2 charges, 45 sec CD and "This action does not share recast with other actions"
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    The tooltip translation we have does say that, but when you watch the video where Yoshida is playing it live, the ability in the top middle with the (2) charges goes on gcd as he is casting the filler dps spell, eucrasia, etc etc.

    https://youtu.be/WSGdMv72ghI?t=15618

    Does not share a recast could simply mean if you swap jobs it won't share a recast with another jobs 45s cd similar ability, not necessarily having anything to do with the global at all.
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    Last edited by MsTanya; 09-20-2021 at 11:39 PM.

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    BLU's Magic Hammer has the same description/property.

    It just means you can cast Phelgma then immediately start casting another spell the instant it goes off (Barring any potential animation locks) as it does not trigger the GCD.

    I'm unsure of why they decided to make it that way instead of just a OGCD, though.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 09-21-2021 at 12:41 AM.

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    Yeah it seems unnecessarily clunky in its current form. I would be less skeptical if Pneuma (120s cd no shared recast that also DOESN'T claim to go on gcd in its tooltip) didn't end up causing the gcd lockout, which you can see just maybe thirty seconds further into that same video. I think its likely a built in mechanism so you can't just be like Cardia explosion on someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    Yeah it seems unnecessarily clunky in its current form. I would be less skeptical if Pneuma (120s cd no shared recast that also DOESN'T claim to go on gcd in its tooltip) didn't end up causing the gcd lockout, which you can see just maybe thirty seconds further into that same video. I think its likely a built in mechanism so you can't just be like Cardia explosion on someone.
    Pneuma is stated as a 'spell' in the tooltip.
    All spells are on the GCD.
    The 1.5 sec cast time also supports that theory. It just has a separate cooldown unique to the skill in addition to being on the GCD.

    Abilities on the other hand, are oGCDs. Actions listed as an ability like Icarus or Physis II are on the oGCD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    Pneuma is stated as a 'spell' in the tooltip.
    All spells are on the GCD.
    Not all Spells. Wanderer's Minuet, Mage's Ballad, and Army's Paeon are oGCD Spells and cannot be used when the Bard is Silenced. Although I'm fairly certain those are the only oGCD Spells in the entire game, and only still classified as Spells because SE forgot to change them to abilities when they moved them off the GCD in the transition to Stormblood. Either way, I agree with Pneuma being on the GCD.
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    I mean I hope I'm wrong due to my own aforementioned clunky gameplay complaint. However, currently in game, no action that's actually ogcd has the gcd spin. When you use another gcd ability, they remain solid (energy drain, assize, many many others).

    This isn't the case with phlegma from the showcase. It does grey out and spin on gcd along with every other hard cast ability/spell they have. Maybe the media tour will clarify, maybe its not the final build. In its current form though, all signs point to it also being gcd.

    Plus phlegma is also considered a "spell" if you wanna use the all spells are gcd argument, (except for the strange case of bard songs).
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    Last edited by MsTanya; 09-21-2021 at 11:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    Yeah it seems unnecessarily clunky in its current form. I would be less skeptical if Pneuma (120s cd no shared recast that also DOESN'T claim to go on gcd in its tooltip) didn't end up causing the gcd lockout, which you can see just maybe thirty seconds further into that same video. I think its likely a built in mechanism so you can't just be like Cardia explosion on someone.
    It is made on GCD so that people won't use it on CD which is the case with Assize. It does the same amount of damage as Dosis III so instead of just giving Sage another AoE oGCD heal with damage reduction, the devs got creative and turned it into an offensive spell that people would benefit from casting only when they actually need it.
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