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    Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.
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    Gunther Frey
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    It isnt copium. It's facts. They've established the possibility of sch having more raid utility then sge with the abilities they've mentioned. I don't care about the arguments of the classes are ruined because they don't conform to your desire when that will be ultimately a matter of opinion. What I care about is if the numbers back up whether or not they did what they said with adjusting the healers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    It isnt copium. It's facts. They've established the possibility of sch having more raid utility then sge with the abilities they've mentioned. I don't care about the arguments of the classes are ruined because they don't conform to your desire when that will be ultimately a matter of opinion. What I care about is if the numbers back up whether or not they did what they said with adjusting the healers.
    copium is dangerous man.

    if "raid utility" is peloton, then either it becomes a must-have (which means SCH is an auto-include in any raid), or useless as content would have to be able to be cleared without it (as is already the case). They couldn't imagine reintroducing quickened aetherflow? What about Fey Wind? Or literally any other kind of buff like a parallel to chain stratagem that increases direct hit rate for all allies?

    They put no thought in to SCH in any way meaningful, clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    if "raid utility" is peloton, then either it becomes a must-have (which means SCH is an auto-include in any raid), or useless as content would have to be able to be cleared without it
    It's going to be a nuisance in most cases. You think they'd have learned from the group Sprint in Bozja, which only served to kill half your group when popped unexpectedly, because people slightly overshot the safe spot and ran over the edge or into fire.

    In the hardest content, you'd coordinate it, but otherwise an unexpected burst of speed when navigating delicate movement for a mechanic can be dangerous.
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    I'm not saying movement speed is the best thing every but how you can turn a buff into something negative is quite impressive. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    It isnt copium. It's facts. They've established the possibility of sch having more raid utility then sge with the abilities they've mentioned. I don't care about the arguments of the classes are ruined because they don't conform to your desire when that will be ultimately a matter of opinion. What I care about is if the numbers back up whether or not they did what they said with adjusting the healers.
    I mean, the numbers are definitely something to watch. Mashing one button eighty gajillion times with no interactivity or decision-making is also the nadir in gameplay design, and I don't think that's quiiiiiite all down to individual taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.
    I need to add my name to the wall of "I quit healers" post
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    Free yourself from the Stockholm syndrome. Play a DPS. They actually give a damn about that role. I'm telling you. You're going to have more fun within a day.
    I fully intend to level SMN as my first job and only queue as a SCH for the mandatory 5 dungeons to reach lvl 90 and then never touch it again.

    If the Devs don't care about SCH, why should I?

    This is coming from someone who mained SCH from 2.0 - 5.0. Was extremely disappointed with the 5.0 changes and rarely played SCH.

    There wasn't much we could do with Scholar
    This is basically the straw that broke my back. I'm done with that job.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    if "raid utility" is peloton, then either it becomes a must-have (which means SCH is an auto-include in any raid), or useless as content would have to be able to be cleared without it (as is already the case). They couldn't imagine reintroducing quickened aetherflow? What about Fey Wind? Or literally any other kind of buff like a parallel to chain stratagem that increases direct hit rate for all allies?
    People don't sprint in dungeon / trial / raid content as it is despite sprint being a FREE movement speed increase.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 09-18-2021 at 10:58 PM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]