"There wasn't much we could really do with SCH"

[lulunami]

HW (3.0) SCH was more fun to me, especially if you optimised Fairy Embraces. By always spamming the Embrace set to a macro, you increase the heals-per-second from the fairy. Letting the fairy its own was slower because the AI took much longer to decide who to heal. The caveat was that the fairy AI becomes Embrace uncontrollable if you had multiple party members that were below 80 percent HP. However most of the time, only tanks were low if Embrace would make a difference.

4.0 and 5.0 SCH on release was really bad and just left me frustrated playing it. I stopped maining SCH after the launch of 4.0 and Ex-Death Savage raid.

Reducing healer game play down to 3 buttons (one nuke, one DoT, and one AoE) is mentally insulting to players. The content will never be designed to require healers using their healing kit to the best of their abilities, even in Ultimate raid. It is even sadder when SCH used to have 12 damage spells in HW 3.0 (Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Miasma II, Blizzard II, Broil, Ruin II, Ruin, Aero, Shadowflare, Energy Drain, Bane).

I will level SCH first in order to level SMN. It would not surprise me SCH and SMN are both somehow janky/underwhelming in Endwalker considering how bad both jobs were at the start of Stormblood (4.0) and Shadowbringers (5.0).

[Teno]

HW (3.0) SCH was more fun to me, especially if you optimised Fairy Embraces. By always spamming the Embrace set to a macro, you increase the heals-per-second from the fairy. Letting the fairy its own was slower because the AI took much longer to decide who to heal. The caveat was that the fairy AI becomes Embrace uncontrollable if you had multiple party members that were below 80 percent HP. However most of the time, only tanks were low if Embrace would make a difference.

4.0 and 5.0 SCH on release was really bad and just left me frustrated playing it. I stopped maining SCH after the launch of 4.0 and Ex-Death Savage raid.

Reducing healer game play down to 3 buttons (one nuke, one DoT, and one AoE) is mentally insulting to players. The content will never be designed to require healers using their healing kit to the best of their abilities, even in Ultimate raid. It is even sadder when SCH used to have 12 damage spells in HW 3.0 (Bio II, Miasma, Bio, Miasma II, Blizzard II, Broil, Ruin II, Ruin, Aero, Shadowflare, Energy Drain, Bane).

I will level SCH first in order to level SMN. It would not surprise me SCH and SMN are both somehow janky/underwhelming in Endwalker considering how bad both jobs were at the start of Stormblood (4.0) and Shadowbringers (5.0).

My thoughts exactly. HW SCH was the epitome of healer gameplay as we know it (not that there was much comparison to begin with). More dps buttons, more interactions with the fairy with direct control and positioning for deployment tactics; and even though it was really strong, mini bursts of adrenaline with giant crit shields.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

Pls weaving change for all healer were necessary and it took still ages for them too do it. And like i said movespeed tool will always be meh, in 99.9% of situations you only ever need 1 sprint and then there is gonna be downtime anyway for 50 years so its gonna be back up for the next mechanic were it does make it more easy too do.

Weaving change for the healers I am a bit salty about tbh, the 1.5gcd was my AST's thing! Taking away muh uniquness. And as for SCH WHM it makes them a lot more brain dead to play, it makes the whm lillies feel utterly pointless since the whole reason they were there was to provide movement and weaving time. If a player was struggling with the weaving on the whm sch then there was ast there for them with greater mobility and weave time. My friend is devastated with the gcd change, he enjoyed planning his heals, his movement etc.. all that consideration is gone now with the new gcd. All because ppl couldn't seem to get into their head when they can weave on their MAIN job?

[Lihtleita]

they really missed a chance to make sch the new dot mage since smn is changing so much. a tactical healer who deals in crippling biological warfare would be very on brand given the job story.
add in the old fairy abilities too why not

[AziraSyuren]

It's so sad that Scholar died of Phlegma.

[GrimGale]

Trait: Explosive Lysis

Your Bio/Biolysis effects dealing critical damage will grant you a stack of Explosive Lysis. This effect can stack up two times.

Explosive Lysis: Ugrades Ruin II to Kaustra

Kaustra: Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 510 to the main target and 50% less to the other targets in a 10 yalm radius.
Shares recast with other weaponskills.

[Ramura_Sono]

"There wasn't much we could really do" is akin to "We didn't know what to do with MNK in SB", so look forward to more of the same in the expansion after EW with the expansion AFTER that finally giving you guys some of what you want.

[Dogempire]

With how they totally rejected any notion of complexity, I wouldn't hold your breath. Maybe if SGE is more complex by a little and people gravitate to it until they will reconsider the others... but then you'll always have little Tommy who needs to have his gundam healer but it's too hard to heal and dps so... it'll get dumbed down, too. At that point all you can really do is abandon the role or the game to show your disapproval.

Pretty sure 90% of veteran healers have abandoned it as a main role, it's just that there are lots of unskilled casuals and new players to replace the veterans

[FoxCh40s]

Pretty sure 90% of veteran healers have abandoned it as a main role, it's just that there are lots of unskilled casuals and new players to replace the veterans

That's exactly it. It irks the hell out of me to see bad healers when I play dps, but you know what? It what Square Enix wanted.

I'll give Sage a try, and maybe level White Mage and Astro, but I am not touching Scholar, nope.

I'll likely main Black Mage or Red Mage.

[NorthernLadMSP]

Pretty sure 90% of veteran healers have abandoned it as a main role, it's just that there are lots of unskilled casuals and new players to replace the veterans

Oh, for sure. The number of terrible healers in this game is shocking.