My Eulogy for Machinist

[Dyvid]

Wish they would have brought back Turrets as an AoE damage buff for other players.

[Jirah]

You may as well change the title to "Eulogy for the Physical Range"

None of them looked remotely impressive. Dancer even needs to be "simplified" because, apparently, it was difficult managing procs. They've all but admitted the Physical Range role is "baby's first DPS" now.

So far I’ve seen nothing to suggest a reduction in BRD kit, and BRD kit is as good as you can get compared to the other ranged, DNC being trivialized MCH unmoving.

SMN and MNK changes will have to wait for tooltips to see actual implications...tho I fear it would be trivialized, not very safe to say it isn’t when they said “during your down time you’ll cast ruin III or somthing” and the summons look superficial but if it’s fun and engaging sure.

MNK heading Twins isn’t positional locked but Demo is, is weird but Snap punch losing Its positional is stupid. Again waiting on the gameplay of it. Cautious as ever and annoyed everyone is buying into the hype so easily just like MCH

Speaking of MCH, out of all the jobs it needed a extra step more than ever or make its heat blast spam be less stupid...but it is so low on the priority list, and assuming ping will still be a issue. Christ do the devs think the job is 100% perfect yet jobs like BLM and SAM change ?

[ForteNightshade]

So far I’ve seen nothing to suggest a reduction in BRD kit, and BRD kit is as good as you can get compared to the other ranged, DNC being trivialized MCH unmoving.

Except Bard's current kit is exactly what people have been complaining about. I know you don't see the small nuisances of SB Bard as a big loss but the same could be argued for how others view SB Machinist to ShB Machinist. SB Bard players want that complexity back because the majority of their gameplay revolves around spamming Burst Shot. While I'd like to be optimistic about the "Crescendo" song ability they showed off. It's hard to get excited over anything related to the song buffs when they're so damn boring. Apex Arrower is probably the last thing anyone wanted.

Simply put, Bard isn't being trivialized like Dancer because they already accomplished that in ShB. Dancer's just late to the party.

[Aiscence]

They never gave a crap about mch and it s core playerbase, and now that the very casual base loves it "i can press 1 button in a row for half a minute and things look cool while i can move without caring" there probably wont have any change anymore. Just look at how much people defend the fact mch's dps is fine because they can move, i m already prepared for mch to be behind RDM again, but they are a caster so it's okay.

[CKNovel]

I realized one thing.
If Shotgun is spreadshot+ and Buzzsaw is Drill+Reassemble, then MCH single target rotation won't change from lv66 to lv90.
You'd simply get one more Reassemble and extra potency/battery.

That is some truly cursed fact.

[ICountFrom0]

On the other hand, it dosen't CHANGE every dungeon, so unlike BLM you can enter roulettes safely without having to relearn your class every single dungeon.

[Jirah]

On the other hand, it dosen't CHANGE every dungeon, so unlike BLM you can enter roulettes safely without having to relearn your class every single dungeon.

On the other other hand, BLM is a late bloomer sure, but MCH 50 kit is as good as it’ll get and most of the changes from 50-90 are gcd (yawn) shallow upgrades (You have 10 levels until you get all 3 of your Heated, Hot shot and queen) and one free charge (hurray more senseless spamming)

Progression kit isn’t to blame just MCH has nothing beyond 50 that’s enhances the job in a advanced fashion unlike....every single job in the game.

I’ve made peace with it tho, if casuals need a job so they don’t ruin other jobs with their bad ideas, MCH is the sacrifice, though DNC does a great job at that anyways. I can sadly assure everyone 7.0 will be just as uneventful with probably “some skill you press after (wildfire/Queen/Drill)” or a shallow upgrade to animation (Pyro Slug, Pyro clean, Heat Bombard). The jobs done identity sealed. It will never be any better than what the mains deem appropriate, which they demand stagnation and their wish granted

[Jirah]

They never gave a crap about mch and it s core playerbase, and now that the very casual base loves it "i can press 1 button in a row for half a minute and things look cool while i can move without caring" there probably wont have any change anymore. Just look at how much people defend the fact mch's dps is fine because they can move, i m already prepared for mch to be behind RDM again, but they are a caster so it's okay.

Considering how easy, and how easy it’ll remain, MCH should never ever top any job DPS wise. They can fool themselves staring at Aggro, but the job has zero complications nor should it ever be above melee. I don’t want to see the simplistic job overshadowing stuff like SAM BLM or even DNC and BRD

[Dogempire]

Considering how easy, and how easy it’ll remain, MCH should never ever top any job DPS wise. They can fool themselves staring at Aggro, but the job has zero complications nor should it ever be above melee. I don’t want to see the simplistic job overshadowing stuff like SAM BLM or even DNC and BRD

It won't because SE is adamant on giving phy ranged a movement tax while also not giving it any meaningful utility that'll actually help the party.

PHY ranged is pretty much dead except for dancer being able to pocket the powerful DPS jobs

[CKNovel]

It won't because SE is adamant on giving phy ranged a movement tax while also not giving it any meaningful utility that'll actually help the party.

PHY ranged is pretty much dead except for dancer being able to pocket the powerful DPS jobs

They'd better remove that tax.
I've looked again at SMN, they only cast outside of summons and during Ifrit, two casts to be exact.
And there is no interruption between summons.

With a dash, Summoner is now more mobile than MCH. And that's in the case of Flamethrower being useless for another two years.