MNK still lacking range...

[monkeyprince]

Hello, everyone!

It is my first time posting here, but as I am watching the most recent live letter, I noticed talks about combos not being broken by range attacks. While this is great for the vast majority of my favourite classes to play, my most favourite aesthetically (and in terms of raw buttons pressed) is still lacking!

I was thinking it might be cool if monks received a range attack that cost one chakra. This keeps the base fantasy of being a physical character there, but allows you to perform a weaker version of Enlightenment. The cost of one chakra is easily generated, either manually or through your standard rotation, and would allow for it to be slightly stronger than a standard ranged attack.

I'd love to hear what people think, whether they have other ideas or would just like to lament monks watching during downtime and hopping from foot to foot!

[Morzy]

Probably not.. Since they just took away our only ranged attack: Shoulder Tackle.

RIP MNK

[Flynn89]

Needs a rocket punch.

[Karshan]

Needs a rocket punch.

Like the punches Goku does against Kefla in UI, it would be sooooo cool, coupled with Bleach sonido style dash.

But more seriously, I think the chakra is a good "generate potency while away" as many said that differentiate with other melees.

[Mikey_R]

I will ask the question, does Monk really need a ranged attack? At range, Monk will mostly be charging Chakra's anyway, so it will conflict with that. Then you have to consider, if I spend a Chakra on this ranged attack, would that one stack potentially been better spent on Forbidden Chakra, especially since charges are (presumably) still RNG gated.

Even if you don't have the chakra cost, you then have to weight it up with chakra generation. Am I gaining more potency spending this GCD on a ranged attack or generating Chakra. Most jobs don't have anything on the GCD that they use to build resources that can be used at range, which is why they can have a ranged attack in the first place.

[Kolsykol]

I will ask the question, does Monk really need a ranged attack? At range, Monk will mostly be charging Chakra's anyway, so it will conflict with that. Then you have to consider, if I spend a Chakra on this ranged attack, would that one stack potentially been better spent on Forbidden Chakra, especially since charges are (presumably) still RNG gated.

Even if you don't have the chakra cost, you then have to weight it up with chakra generation. Am I gaining more potency spending this GCD on a ranged attack or generating Chakra. Most jobs don't have anything on the GCD that they use to build resources that can be used at range, which is why they can have a ranged attack in the first place.

No one really '' needs '' a ranged, it's just that it's free damage everyone has except MNK.
SAM still has it and they have a channel skill too, and now combos won't be broken by it.
It's about fun and also a tool everyone except MNK has, and often times when you disengage you already have chakras and charge up really fast and then you're just kinda sitting there ( Anatman is crap everyone hates it anyways ).

I don't agree that it should cost a Chakra tho I don't exactly see the point with that, no one else has to spend resources on it.

Edit: If anything it could build a Chakra, sorta like how Throwing Daggers builds Ninki for NIN.

[Morzy]

it's free damage everyone has except MNK.

This simply is not true. Monk does have a system that counts towards potency contribution while away from the boss. Let me explain.


If by damage = potency then utilizing Meditation while away from boss produces the same effect.

Meditation can be stacked 5 times, has a recast time of 1.0 seconds, and are consumed to perform Forbidden Chakra which has a potency of 340.

If we do some quick math.. 340/5=68. Each stack of meditation produces 68 potency and with a quick recast time of 1.0 second.


I understand that Dragoon has Piercing Talon which has a potency of 150 and a recast time of 2.5 seconds...

In 2.5 seconds, Dragoon can produce 150 potency.
In 3 seconds, Monk can produce 204 potency.

Monk accumulates more potency than DRG when accounting for their basic ranged attacks. Dragoon can only produce more potency than Monk after performing Piercing Talon three times.

[wereotter]

They should give us back Howling Fist for our ranged skill.... but they probably won't since they expect us to meditate while we're disengaged.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

A ranged attack would be nice even if it's just for niche things like potd or HoH for pulling away from a pack. I mean monk in 11 had chi blast which was 18 yalms.

[Garnix]

If you make it cost chakra, it is likely nobody would use it.

That said, if a ranged attack is added, it would just be like most of the others jobs' ranged attack: not really flashy. (well, aside from Reaper, for some reasons...)
There was a lot more flashiness to show for Monk in the trailer. Showing such a move was not needed.
It doesn't mean they did not add one. The job trailers do not show every single move.

I doubt they added one but...there is still a chance that your wish could be fulfilled.