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    ahh i see so at least there is something different with the each of the primals sort of. No more clutch titan shields and rezing the healer tho. rip.
    But then you'd still go through each of the primals anyways as part of the rotation.. even if you dont particularly need it right now. Feels like, instead of making each of the summons unique and interesting, they opt to just equalize and make them all compulsory parts of the rotation to use all of them. hahaha most people use Ifrit 90% of the time, for its single target dmg?! Now, no one gets be special!
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    Last edited by Ailuron; 09-18-2021 at 04:37 PM.

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    as a years long scholar main, it‘s time….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fukuro View Post
    as a years long scholar main, it‘s time….

    ahaha same, the new scholar combat "gAp ClOsEr" is not doing it for me either x'D
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    I'm excited for pretty much everything but the existing healers.
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    It does look like I might make an alt to see how the Summoner levelling is like. Or running up through Deep dungeon or progressing through leveling dungeons.
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    That feedback about summoner makes me happy. Players been asking for summoner to just cast and summon through spells instead of being a pet class and they at last did it. Way to go. and removing dots also? Dream come true for summoners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    That feedback about summoner makes me happy. Players been asking for summoner to just cast and summon through spells instead of being a pet class and they at last did it. Way to go. and removing dots also? Dream come true for summoners.
    Really? I'm new to the game, i didn't know players wanted to remove pets and DOTs from summoners. But.. that's literally all that's making summoners interesting and different.
    Any reason to not just play BLM or RDM?
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    Last edited by Ailuron; 09-18-2021 at 05:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailuron View Post
    Really? I'm new to the game, i didn't know players wanted to remove pets and DOTs from summoners. But.. that's literally all that's making summoners interesting and different.
    Any reason to not just play BLM or RDM?
    Have you played RDM or BLM?

    None of the casters play anything alike. SMN now looks to be smaller burst phases in between the "bigger" Demi ones - and it looks like they can be freely used as needed depending on what's going on in the fight, even if you technically need ALL of them by the end.

    From my experience as a BLM, because it requires similar forethought: It does seem like optimization will be better once you know the content and plan your summon order accordingly, and to some that's pretty daunting. But UNLIKE BLM, it also doesn't seem to be nearly as punishing for messing up, so it's still approachable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reksanden View Post
    Have you played RDM or BLM?

    None of the casters play anything alike. SMN now looks to be smaller burst phases in between the "bigger" Demi ones - and it looks like they can be freely used as needed depending on what's going on in the fight, even if you technically need ALL of them by the end.

    From my experience as a BLM, because it requires similar forethought: It does seem like optimization will be better once you know the content and plan your summon order accordingly, and to some that's pretty daunting. But UNLIKE BLM, it also doesn't seem to be nearly as punishing for messing up, so it's still approachable.
    I have played RDM, not as much for BLM. I understand that obviously different casters would have different play styles but imo taking away pets and dots and effectively pushing SMN into a similar mold as the others, with the exception of minor differences such as having a bit of flexibility (choosing the order of using the Primal-themed spells) wasn't worth losing SMN's uniqueness/identity. In the end, I doubt what we get in return would be, say, SMN doing more dps then BLM, we could be playing BLM instead.

    The devs did mention that they were contemplating whether to remove SMN's combat raise... but decided to keep it in fear that the change might be too much and anger people. I worry. If they did, what are SMNs then...? which direction are they heading with SMNs....?

    With that being said.. RDM is looking more interesting ahaha might try it out a bit more later xD
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    Last edited by Ailuron; 09-18-2021 at 06:28 PM.

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