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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    OK, muppets. There is so much jokes here that I have no idea where to start from.
    Oh this is going to be fun. I haven't done one of these in a while.

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    - Most games DO NOT provide you calculated data of your DPS, even your very special and important WoW does not do that, you need Add On even there to do it.
    And yet, most games do a far better job of at least giving you some idea of how much you are doing so you can try and figure it out yourself. Precise timestamps, verbose and clear damage feedback, the ability to not have multiple sources of damage merged into one figure etc. WoW had all of these. FFXIV didn't. Go watch a 2.x-3.x SMN PoV and point out where they can keep a tabs on their dot damage. Spoiler: They couldn't. It wasn't even shown in the combat log. It was shown merged in with the Scrolling Text on screen and that was it. GL making any sense of that in any actual content that wasn't the Summerford training dummy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    - ToS are clear about third party tools and crying like baby or not, does not change ToS.
    The ToS is also equally clear on calling people muppets FYI. Your point? Any MMO has to have an overeaching ToS to cover their backs. Obviously the extent they chose to enforce it can vary immensely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    - There are ways for SE to find out if you are using third party tools ingame and I belive they do not because for most of the years the community was pretty careful to not allow tools that ruin other players expirience, but that started to change and we may lose any possibility to use ANY kind of modifications because of it if SE decides to go with the normal approach for modern online games and add anti cheat.
    This is being brought up in a UI thread because of Ultimate shenanigans in a fight that a tiny minority will ever clear regardless of how much handholding is given. Shouldn't you be raging about gathering, crafting, leveling, fate grinding, eureka farming bots instead? They have a far more significant impact on the game as a whole than anything this thread is addressing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    - You DO not need, never needed and never will need DPS metter to create rotations, become good or whatever in FF. What you need is brain to read the tooltips and dummy. If you are not sure between few rotations "Stone, Sky, Sea" have a great challanges to check what rotation works best.
    Again, go look at SMN in ARR and tell me you could optimise that beyond 'muh fester crits' without someway to accurately understand what your dot damage was. Dots were much more important for many jobs back then and SE set the bar by making it comically difficult to track what they were doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    - All battles are completed by minimum two groups in Square enix without any third party tools before release, so the argument that you need them to complete anything in FF is a childish joke. I was personally in a group cleaning savages on Minimal Item Level for two years and you can imagine how many "data mining" I was using to clear content on PS4, we never had a battle that we were unable to clear.
    Yoshida has clarified how internal testing is handled many times over the years. I suggest you go have a read. And grats I guess? Savage doesn't even come close to the the complexity and precision that this Ultimate seems to require, especially not the jokes we've had in the last few expansions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grebeny View Post
    Go on and cry like a babies about your addons for a bit longer and SE will end up with anti cheat and you will forget about all your NSFW mods too
    Or maybe SE could actually spend some of the 200 mill earnings to actually improve their UI and offer players some basic level of feedback so that they don't feel so obligated to step foot onto the slippery add-on slope
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 05-10-2022 at 09:08 PM.
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