Stop the WoWificaton (ui mods)

[Reap00]

Just like you can spin my post however you see fit for your knee-jerk reaction to skimming it.

How can SE know people are running addons without:

A) User speaking about using the addon in chat.
B) Running a scanner, which is a questionable move.
C) The addon gives a clear advantage, thus being detectable by other players and actions in the game. For instance: parser just reads game data, so it does not give any advantage in the moment to the player. It cannot be used to leverage a win over another player who is not using it. This, versus a script that automates your character performance, like how bots operate.

Repeating it clearly in a little list just so I am not misinterpreted again. Love and light.

People stream daily on twitch and youtube with these addons. All they have to do is tune in and they will see them. I am sure they are already 100% aware as they have banned people as a result. Keep using your addons. I hope you get the ban you deserve.

[Kyrj]

You shift from "How are you affected by the people who don't like mods" (as if school yard level reversing is a got 'em) to shifting to speculation of SE's reaction - one has nothing to do with the other.

Because they have no argument. They need to accept that SE isn't going to do anything about it because they can't scan our computers to find it.

[Hoehenflug]

Some UI mods are distributed through XIVlauncher, which also gives players access to a number of other features that give clear advantages. Some examples:

- Allows you to see player hitbox
- Can automatically find and relay hunt mobs
- Condenses combos to one button
- Allows macros to be daisy-chained
- Allows mouseover targeting without macro delay
- Gives player realtime information about mobs in PoTD
- Shows different damage types visually (magic/physical))

I don't engange in any hardcore content, but I had my LB insta silenced a couple of weeks ago and I haven't touched PvP since. I've fled WoW when Shadowmeld became obselete from the use of addons.

Stop whiteknighting for political progaganda machine abusers that aggressively breaking TOS. If you do it in your privacy, fine. But don't advertise it to the same crowd that killed WoW.

If you defend Addons, fine. But these people hurt users too. Yoshida clearly pointed out he doesn't want to get involved, but clearly disresepectful millionaires see that as an invitation to force his hand.

[Kyrj]

People stream daily on twitch and youtube with these addons. All they have to do is tune in and they will see them. I am sure they are already 100% aware as they have banned people already as a result. Keep using your addons. I hope you get the ban you deserve.

That is literally like what 0.1% of the people who may be using an addon. Yeah that's def going to solve the problem.

[Reap00]

That is literally like what 0.1% of the people who may be using an addon. Yeah that's def going to solve the problem.

If they start banning these people you will see things clean up very quickly. Fear works wonders.

[DRHaymaker]

Stop whiteknighting for political progaganda machine abusers

...I'm sorry, what?

[Kyrj]

If they start banning these people you will see things clean up very quickly. Fear works wonders.

If the way they're "finding" these people is through streams it's not going to scare the rest because SE wont have a way to track who uses the addons unless they start scanning peoples computers, which they already said they'd never do. So no, no one is going to get scared into getting rid of addons.

[MagiusNecros]

Any mods other people use will be client side and you'll never see them. YT/Twitch video's you'll see them but it's mostly shaders and facial cosmetics. Yoshi's stance has always been he recommends against using them but cannot force you not to. The bans are usually warranted if they change the core game or if they advertise it openly. If you do the Yoshi ninjas will get you.

I personally don't like mods and never used them in any MMO.

[LisSquid]

I hope you get the ban you deserve.

Cute.

Anyway, still not answering my post about what this would look like for the other 99.99% of players. You seem a bit scuffed about all this, maybe drink some water and get back to me when you want to discuss reasonable solutions to how SE can address 3rd party software in a way that satisfies the issues I listed, and does not leave us with "The player had to admit to it in game chat and the program gave clear and measurable advantage". Love and light.

[Hoehenflug]

...I'm sorry, what?

This is not a political forum. Please keep this topic out of here. pogchamps