Stop the WoWificaton (ui mods)

[Breezelyn]

What is with this crusade with the whole holier-than-thou attitude when it comes things that don't affect you personally? These are client-sided things-- As long as no one is being hurt, or actively harming the game (They're not; Go look at people buying actual gil). What's the big issue?

These HUD/UI adjustments can give someone with disabilities better/easier accessibility with the game. Are you going to go on your mortal high horse to ban all these players keeping to themselves? Considering FF14 still has ways to go with better accessibility....

Oi oi oi....people on these forums are nuts. xD

Please go outside and touch some grass...or something. It's clear you need to be banned off the internet for a week.

Edit: Dammit fell for the bait. OH WELL, you win this one dude.

[Halivel]

How can it be that virtually every other online game out there has a way to detect and ban people using third party software? Of course there is a way for them to know. They have just thus far chosen not to know.

Because Yoshida explicitly said during his speech about ACT that scanning our PCs is illegal. Lest you forget, SE is a Japanese company located in Japan, and they have different laws to abide to.

"We cannot do anything, if people have a little window on their screen showing ACT. We don't want to "scan" your computer for the software you have installed, that's against the law anyway. There are additional plugins for ACT that influence game play a lot, this is breaking game balance and is target of more severe penalties"

This is a direct quote from translation done by Reddit team during LL from 6th February, 2020. You can still find it in their Discord.


That being said, you still don't need to worry about mods and 3rd party tools even if they are there. No one can force you to use them, especially considering they're against the ToS. If you see people demanding you to or harassing over not using/doing something 3rd party tool related, especially in game chat - report, you have full right to do so in this situation.

[Altera]

Only the player really knows about the mod, so unless they are advertising that they are using one, there's no real way to know. That includes wardrobe mods.

Wouldnt this be advertising? More and more XIV youtube content creators are actively advertising Addons like this

https://youtu.be/4bIK7N4ui4g
https://youtu.be/H-PdCFcNe78
https://youtu.be/9J682WK0ht8

This is how Addons start. With simple UI, Casting mods showing exactly when you can move your character during the cast, Damage meters, then we will get ones like DBM or Bigwigs and possibly even worse ones simply because of the no enforcing of their own TOS rules.
I hated Addons in WOW and what it made the community do to eachother and do not want the same to happen in XIV as Addons was 1 of 3 big reasons i ended up quitting WOW.

[Thaun]

Casting mods showing exactly when you can move your character during the cast

You can do this by intuition, and just looking at your seconds in the cast bar.

Also, i don't believe there has been any party finder that is saying "you need this-and-this addon to join this party", cause that is just dumb. It is all a personal preference.

As long as Square Enix, makes the fight the way that you are able to do without ToS Breaking Addons then it is fine. Cause why would Square Enix even make fights that requires an addon that breaks their own ToS.

[Aron73]

Wouldnt this be advertising? More and more XIV youtube content creators are actively advertising Addons like this

https://youtu.be/4bIK7N4ui4g
https://youtu.be/H-PdCFcNe78
https://youtu.be/9J682WK0ht8

This is how Addons start. With simple UI, Casting mods showing exactly when you can move your character during the cast, Damage meters, then we will get ones like DBM or Bigwigs and possibly even worse ones simply because of the no enforcing of their own TOS rules.
I hated Addons in WOW and what it made the community do to eachother and do not want the same to happen in XIV as Addons was 1 of 3 big reasons i ended up quitting WOW.

I have to agree with you here. I do not mind people using graphics improvement mods, but mods like DBM are cheating to me; after all, the mod is literally telling you in real-time what to do, and all you have to do is follow instructions.

[Larirawiel]

Wouldnt this be advertising? More and more XIV youtube content creators are actively advertising Addons like this

https://youtu.be/4bIK7N4ui4g
https://youtu.be/H-PdCFcNe78
https://youtu.be/9J682WK0ht8

This is how Addons start. With simple UI, Casting mods showing exactly when you can move your character during the cast, Damage meters, then we will get ones like DBM or Bigwigs and possibly even worse ones simply because of the no enforcing of their own TOS rules.
I hated Addons in WOW and what it made the community do to eachother and do not want the same to happen in XIV as Addons was 1 of 3 big reasons i ended up quitting WOW.

If an interface addon needs a special launcher than i would not use it. Because this launcher will get access to all data of the running FF14 process. This means, it can read your login data.

Nevertheless, Square Enix could take the good ideas from the addons and put them directly into the game. So they could make some interface mods obsolete.

Cheers

[Sotaris]

Because this launcher will get access to all data of the running FF14 process. This means, it can read your login data

This is incorrect. Please stop spreading misinformation.
If this was true, ACT already know millions of players login info which it don't.

[Larirawiel]

This is incorrect. Please stop spreading misinformation.
If this was true, ACT already know millions of players login info which it don't.

I know how the process model in Windows works. And i know what is possible when a process starts another process and what the first process can do with the other process, sorry.

Cheers

[Sove92]

How are you affected by UI mods?

[Xaruko_Nexume]

How are you affected by UI mods?

See post#7.

Also, I made this thread because I am upset at the flaunting of it nonchalantly by streamers right now. Other games have had security protocols like "Warden" to prevent this sort of things for years. It is remarkable to me that the are okay with third party software literally modifying their code. These aren't some LUA interface files. These are no different to me than cheats or trainers for other games.